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mschere

05/02/03 4:20 PM

#22477 RE: blueskywaves #22469

Two points..IDCC's Mutual funds currently are limited to small cap..IMO;The universe will increase by ten fold if IDCC passes $2 Billion market cap.


IMO: IDCC recieved almost 100% of Tantivy's valuable assets ( I recall 1 1/2 Million with a cap of $18 Million) for less than 15 cents on the dollars invested in them by some CREDIBLE Venture Capital Companies..There are scores of similar bargains available to be picked off in todays market place.
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The Count

05/02/03 4:23 PM

#22478 RE: blueskywaves #22469

blueskywaves, you are correct

IDCC would be a less attractive stock today if not for M&A. IDCC was a TDMA-only IP shop until they merged with Schilling's CDMA-only IP shop in the early 90s. At that time, the wireless industry was still making the transition from 1G (analog) to 2G (digital) and carriers were still choosing between the heavily favored GSM, a TDMA variant, and CDMA, the US underdog.

The rationale for this merger was sound. Schilling's CDMA-only IPR would enhance IDCC's ability to generate income from its TDMA-only IPR while allowing IDCC to hedge a CDMA future. Litigation, of course, sidetracked IDCC for much of the 90s.


The merger was done because it was a good situation for both companies. I just don't want IDCC to feel the need to be active in M&A just because it has a nice fat bank account.

I'm still not onboard with the need for a larger float. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume institutions invest a desired $ amount in a stock. So they just buy fewer shares. Also, as a holder I like a tighter supply when thinking of the supply/demand curve. Honestly, I don't think float has a significant affect on the long term price either way. Some funds won't buy stock priced under a certain dollar level, and some individuals don't like to buy high priced stock, which is the primary reason for splits. Really, its pretty much a non-issue to me UNLESS expanding the float is done by dilution, because that is a huge issue to me - but I think many people have guessed that by now!!!

Thanks for your thoughts,
Frank
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bulldzr

05/02/03 6:04 PM

#22495 RE: blueskywaves #22469

Blueskywaves, interesting topic you brought up regarding the aquisition of Schilling's company...Thanks.

"IDCC was a TDMA-only IP shop until they merged with Schilling's CDMA-only IP shop in the early 90s....The rationale for this merger was sound. Schilling's CDMA-only IPR would enhance IDCC's ability to generate income from its TDMA-only IPR while allowing IDCC to hedge a CDMA future."

Interesting points, and I agree it is good logic. The past, current, and future work at IDCC in adding to and furthering those original Schilling patents will payoff IMO. I also believe the Tantivy deal will reap rewards, and I would hope all M&A's in the future will as well.

Question: Can you quantify the cost/benefits of the Schilling acquisiton? What did we 'pay' for the deal in cash and or stock? Other than the $5M settlement from QCOM, what has IDCC and it's shareholders reaped from this original Schilling deal up until now?
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JimLur

05/03/03 11:13 AM

#22577 RE: blueskywaves #22469

"Regarding buybacks, I disagree."

I spoke with a friend the other day and he told me some time back there was an article in the WSJ about companies selling puts on their shares in the late 90s. Two of the companies mentioned were MSFT and INTEL.

Do you think this would be a good idea for IDCC?