da chef - Well what, chef? What is another 100 points on a 14 year chart? 1700 was a logical target. Target now is 1810. WATCH THE RED LINE! That is the red line at the bottom, of course. I think you will be wrong again. After having totally missed the last two bear moves in this secular bear market you are about to miss the last one. You have banned me from your board. Now you post on mine???? You are no gentleman. Please refrain from posting here again. I don't mind you reading my posts in an effort to learn something but you do not need to post here.