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[fuagf]

.. yeah .. there is a serious disconnect between some of the more repugnant ways of the Catholic church, and what is seen as more moral in our world today .. as so many have said, and continue to say, all in church hierarchy have much soul searching to do if the church wishes to remain, in the future, as relevant as it has been in the past .. same applies as to the hierarchy of most any if not all religions, i guess ..

[StephanieVanbryce]

It seems as if rape of children, women and men in any country is not primary importance. I do remember in ancient history . .that it seems that 'rich ruling men?' ... . had little boys and it was most acceptable ... I also read that in the Muslim religion also ... and then of course we remember the Afghan Dancing Boys ... . now, I was very very young when I took this ancient history class... and to me at that time it was just a YUK! ... and turn my face away .. and so did everyone else .. we NEVER discussed it! .... And further I don't even know if it was even a reputable ancient history book .

it reminds me of rape all over the world .... it's happening all the time in every country ... and I quite sure little boys and little girls are being raped every three minutes or more .. who knows? ..... and people seem to accept this violence or perhaps we are overwhelmed by it ... . .no one does anything about it really .. to change ... maybe it's too big a problem? And no one knows how to change it .... . they say those rapes in India .. will not change a darn thing .... who knows .. .it's just all so depressing .... it's time for me to 'turn my face away . .now' ........;) .. Just kidding ... just kidding .... I don't like dealing with things that I'm not able to do anything about ... it just causes anxiety and frustration and then depression and the thought of trying to make it change or hell, even STOP! ... . seems to be futile.

I don't think this is just a 'Catholic' issue, BUT, Catholic is what we are talking about right now ..however, I believe it is a 'Societal' issue ... all over the world ... maybe even something deeper ... .. as it appears that the majority are all appeased somehow ...Public Hangings, anyone?

Now we have internet pedophilia .. we can buy the child online ... or make arrangements or whatever or how they do it ... I remember reading about when Kurt Eichenwald got caught up in it .. he was trying to help a child (male young .. like 12 or something don't remember all the details ) and somehow he came out being the bad guy .... that spelling isn't correct .. all I remember is that he is a writer, he has written for the nyt, and maybe all over .. and on staff at Vanity Fair .. ( I think he's on staff .. ;) )

[fuagf]

Massive online pedophile ring busted by cops

Five Americans among 184 people arrested; 230 abused children taken to safety


Jerry Lampen / Reuters

Grant Edwards, of the Australian Federal Police (right), Peter Davis (center) of the U.K.'s Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, Europol director Rob Wainwright outline details of arrests during "Operation Rescue" linked to a global child abuse network during a news conference in The Hague Wednesday.

msnbc.com staff and news service reports

An Internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 members — thought to be the world's largest —has been uncovered by police, a security official said Wednesday.

The European police agency Europol said in a statement that "Operation Rescue .. http://www.europol.europa.eu/index.asp?page=news&news=pr110316.htm " had identified 670 suspects and that 230 abused children in 30 countries had been taken to safety. More children are expected to be found, Europol said.

It said that so far 184 people had been arrested and investigations in some countries were continuing. Most of those detained are suspected of direct involvement in sexually abusing children.

They include teachers, police officers and scout leaders, AP reported. One Spaniard who worked at summer youth camps is suspected of abusing some 100 children over five years.

[ .. and pretty sure priests it was reported Australia and doctors .. ]

Europol director Rob Wainwright said Wednesday the ring, which communicated using an Internet forum, was "probably the largest online pedophile network in the world."

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Cori Bassett, a public affairs officer for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in an email that there had been five arrests and four convictions in connection with Operation Rescue in the U.S.

"Arrests so far have been made in Georgia and Connecticut. ICE continues to pursue the leads provided by Europol," she added.

The website was shut down following the three-year investigation, Europol said.

"The website operated from a server based in the Netherlands and, at its height, boasted up to 70,000 members worldwide," it added.
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"It attempted to operate as a 'discussion–only' forum where people could share their sexual interest in young boys without committing any specific offences, thus operating 'below the radar' of police attention," Europol said.

"Having made contact on the site, some members would move to more private channels, such as email, to exchange and share illegal images and films of children being abused. Computers seized from those arrested have harvested huge quantities of child abuse images and videos," it added.

Police infiltrated site

The Europol statement said U.K. and Australian police infiltrated the site to identify the members who posed the greatest danger to children. Police also sometimes posed as children online as part of the investigation.

Law enforcement authorities from 13 countries, including the United States, Australia, Canada, Italy, Spain and the U.K., were involved in the case, Europol said.

The statement said Europol analysts had cracked the security features of a key computer server at the center of the network which uncovered the identities of suspected child sex offenders.

And, after his arrest, the forum's Dutch administrator helped police break encryption measures that shielded users' identities, allowing police to begin their covert investigations.

"Europol subsequently issued over 4,000 intelligence reports to police authorities in over 30 countries in Europe and elsewhere, which has led to the arrests of suspects and the safeguarding of children," Europol said.

Wainwright said he was proud of the "exceptional work of our experts in helping police authorities around the world to record these groundbreaking results."

"The safeguarding of so many vulnerable children is particularly rewarding and demonstrates the commitment of our agency to make Europe a safer place for its citizens," he added.

The investigation was led by Britain's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Center.

Peter Davies, of the center, said there would be more arrests as the investigations continue.
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"Those who have been members of the site can expect a knock on the door in the very near future," he said.

In Britain, police said, the children involved were aged between 7 and 14.

Australian Federal Police commander Grant Edwards said suspects arrested in Australia ranged in age from 19 to 84 and used the Internet to "prey on children with anonymity, with subterfuge and with camouflage."

Children, Edwards said, "should be able to use the Internet safely, without fear of being approached or groomed by these online predators."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/#.UobSiyfdDbo

.. it was reported 66 were arrested in Australia alone .. filthy business ..