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[JONAH 2]

1 John 4:12---King James Version (KJV)

12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

John 1:18--King James Version (KJV)

18 "No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

Exodus 33:20--King James Version (KJV)

20 " And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live."

John 5:36-37---King James Version (KJV)

36."But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

----DO you agree that no man has seen God at any time ?

[Welcome2Pinkyland]

I will help you cut to the chase:

How can Jesus be God and also the Son of God?

[Welcome2Pinkyland]

I thought you might appreciate this- this is from someone who shares your same believe that Jesus in not God:
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Jesus is his own father.

Can you think of any concept more retarded?
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[JONAH 2]

-- Titles and Descriptive Terms Applying to "Jehovah"--Psalm 83:18

" ALMIGHTY. Heb., Shad·dai', plural to denote excellence, occurs 41 times and is translated “Almighty” or “Almighty One.” (Ge 49:25; Ps 68:14) The corresponding word in the Christian Greek Scriptures is Pan·to·kra'tor and means “Almighty,” or, “Ruler Over All; One Who Has All Power.” (2Co 6:18; Re 15:3) The expression 'El Shad·dai', “God Almighty,” occurs seven times in M and indicates that Jehovah has irresistible power.—Ge 17:1; Ex 6:3.

ANCIENT OF DAYS. Aram., ?At·tiq' Yoh·min', meaning “One Advanced [or, Aged] in Days.”—Da 7:9, 13, 22.

CREATOR. Heb., Boh·re''. (Isa 40:28; 42:5) GRAND CREATOR.—Ec 12:1.

FATHER. Heb., 'Av; Gr., Pa·ter'; Lat., Pa'ter; as Creator (Isa 64:8); as giver of everlasting life to all those who exercise faith. (Joh 5:21) The expression “Holy Father” is used exclusively with reference to Jehovah.—Joh 17:11. Compare Mt 23:9.
GOD. Heb., 'El, without the definite article, probably meaning “Mighty One; Strong One.”—Ge 14:18.

GOD. Heb., 'Eloh'ah, singular of 'Elo·him', without the definite article. It occurs 41 times in Job and 16 times in other books.—Job 3:4.

GOD. Heb., 'Elo·him', without the definite article. In The American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, Chicago and New York, 1905, p. 208, Aaron Ember wrote: “That the language of the O[ld] T[estament] has entirely given up the idea of plurality in ????? ['Elo·him'] (as applied to the God of Israel) is especially shown by the fact that it is almost invariably construed with a singular verbal predicate, and takes a singular adjectival attribute. . . .
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['Elo·him'] must rather be explained as an intensive plural, denoting greatness and majesty, being equal to The Great God. It ranks with the plurals ????? ['adho·nim', “master”] and ????? [be?a·lim', “owner; lord”], employed with reference to human beings.” 'Elo·him' draws attention to Jehovah’s strength as the Creator and occurs 35 times in the creation account.—Ge 1:1-2:4.

GOD OF GODS (LORD OF LORDS).—De 10:17; Da 2:47.

GOD OF TRUTH. Heb., 'El 'emeth', indicating that Jehovah is true and faithful in all his dealings.—Ps 31:5.

GRAND GOD. Aram., 'Elah' rav.—Da 2:45.

HAPPY GOD. Gr., ma·ka'ri·os The·os'.—Compare 1Ti 1:11.

HOLY GOD. Heb., 'Elo·him' qedho·shim'.—Jos 24:19.

HOLY, HOLY, HOLY. Heb., qa·dhohsh', qa·dhohsh', qa·dhohsh'. This expression as applied to Jehovah includes holiness, cleanness, purity and sacredness to the superlative degree.—Isa 6:3; Re 4:8.

INDEFINITELY LASTING GOD. Heb., 'El ?oh·lam'.—Ge 21:33.

INSTRUCTOR. Heb., Moh·reh'. (Job 36:22) GRAND INSTRUCTOR.—Isa 30:20.

I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE.—See Ex 3:14 ftn.

JEALOUS. Heb., Qan·na'', meaning “Insisting on Exclusive Devotion.”—Ex 34:14; see also Eze 5:13.

JEHOVAH GOD.—Ge 2:4. See App 1A.

JEHOVAH OF ARMIES. This expression with minor variations occurs 283 times in M. It also occurs twice in the Christian Greek Scriptures where Paul and James quoted or alluded to prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures. (See Ro 9:29; Jas 5:4.)

The expression “Jehovah of armies” indicates the power held by the Ruler of the universe, who has at his command vast forces of spirit creatures.—Ps 103:20, 21; 148:2; Isa 1:24; Jer 32:17, 18. See App 1E.

KING OF ETERNITY. Gr., Ba·si·leus' ton ai·o'non.—Compare 1Ti 1:17.

KING OF THE NATIONS. Heb., Me'lekh hag·goh·yim'.—Jer 10:7.

LIVING GOD. Heb., 'Elo·him', with the plural adjective chai·yim' (De 5:26); or with the singular adjective chai (Isa 37:4, 17); Gr., The·os' zon.—Compare Heb 3:12.

MAJESTY. Gr., Me·ga·lo·sy'ne, denoting his lofty, superior position. (Compare Heb 1:3; 8:1.) MAJESTIC ONE. Heb., 'Ad·dir'.—Isa 33:21.

MAKER. Heb., ?O·seh'. (Ps 115:15; Jer 10:12)
GRAND MAKER.—Isa 54:5.

MOST HIGH. Heb., ?El·yohn'.—De 32:8; Ps 9:2; 83:18.

MOST HOLY ONE. Heb., Qedho·shim', plural to denote excellence and majesty.—Pr 30:3.

OVERSEER OF YOUR SOULS.—1Pe 2:25.

THE ROCK. Heb., hats·Tsur'. (De 32:4) Figuratively used to describe Jehovah’s qualities as perfect, just, faithful, righteous and upright; as father (De 32:18); as a stronghold (2Sa 22:32; Isa 17:10); as a secure height and refuge (Ps 62:7; 94:22); as a source of salvation.—De 32:15; Ps 95:1.

SAVIOR. Heb., Moh·shi'a? (Isa 43:11; 45:21); Gr., So·ter'.—Compare Lu 1:47.

SHEPHERD.—Ps 23:1; 1Pe 2:25.

SOVEREIGN LORD.—Ge 15:2; Lu 2:29. See App 1E.

SUPREME ONE. Aram., ?El·yoh·nin'.—Da 7:18, 22, 27.

THE [TRUE] GOD. Heb., ha·'Elo·him'.—See App 1F.
THE [TRUE] GOD. Heb., ha·'El'.—See App 1G.
THE [TRUE] LORD. Heb., ha·'A·dhohn'.—See App 1H. "