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[StephanieVanbryce]

I went to a private Catholic 'boarding' school. Boys were 'day students' up to the eighth grade .. then after that ... no more boys. But my experience was 'different' also ... during recess I always played 'softball' with the boys .... I loved it ... . we all loved it ... please keep in mind that 'sexual' didn't come into it .. I was 8 ..... the oldest boys were 8 and under ...somehow I was the only non Catholic and the only girl who wanted to play softball in the entire school ... lol .. sheeesh! .... such a big deal.. Sister Mary Thomas took upon herself to 'shame' me in class ......by having me stand up in front of the entire class and then she would say 'weird strange things' .. like ... .. "Look at this girl! ... she will be pregent before she's 16 years old .. etc. Now I swear that is the word I thought she said .. I had never heard that word before .. .so I called up my Mom and asked here what does 'pregent' mean? ... . .we batted it around a little bit ... and long story short .....we decided that I was o.k. ... 'she wasn't affecting me' ...... that was wrong .. ;) .... .. anyway she kept it up ... she simply didn't like me ......but then I had the MOST WONDERFUL Sister Timothy! ........and she always made all the pain go away ... we would play piano together .. read poetry etc... we would just concentrate on the arts ......;) .. She was a Princess and the kindest thing ever .. so I never complained anymore to Mom .... however, it continued ... now Sister Mary Thomas was making me get down on my knees and wash the floor of this huge hall ......I mean I worked on it until right before dinner and it would not even be halfway through.....so this continued, also I stopped playing the softball ... it didn't matter anymore ... LOLOL .........but it still didn't appease her. .. I don't really remember it all .. .but something I told Mom ........and then one day I was on the floor all by myself scrubbing and wringing out towels ... (no mop or anything like that) tons of towels ......and a scrub brush... and My MOM appeared right behind me! .... She said! Get UP! .......We're going home! ... and that was the end of my experience at the Academy of the Little Flower ........;) .......

then they sent me to a private school up in the mountains with horses and stuff and real cowboys and chewing tobacco .. etc.....and normal boy and girl classes but small .....Like eight people in my class .......the total school had 103 students at that time .....they didn't want any more, that was a perfect number .......and I gotta tell YOU! It was Paradise .. .simply the most wonderful experience I ever had .....I loved that school! ... ;) That one was a 'Christian Science School' however, they didn't impose their will on you about 'anything' ... we had something called 'vespers' services? ....something like that ? .. but they were not about religion on sunday nights.. they were about Africa and Dr. Livingston ... etc... stuff like that .. with movies ........we loved it !

All this stuff we're learning about what's happening today is bringing back all these experiences I had ... ;) ..Sorry for the book!

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Virginia Christian School Pressures 'Tomboy' Sunnie Kahle To Transfer

AP | by LARRY O'DELL

Posted: 03/28/2014 5:14 pm EDT Updated: 03/28/2014 5:59 pm EDT



FOREST, Va. (AP) — Eight-year-old Sunnie Kahle likes to keep her hair short, wear boys' clothes, collect hunting knives and shoot her BB gun.

"She's a pure, 100 percent tomboy," said her great-grandfather Carroll Thompson, who along with his wife Doris adopted their granddaughter's child.

But to Timberlake Christian School administrators, the second-grader's boyish ways warranted an ultimatum: Start acting like a girl or find another school.

The Thompsons found another school, but they didn't go quietly. After being told by lawyers that they have no grounds for a lawsuit because Timberlake is a private school, the Thompsons have gone public with their complaints.

"I don't see nothing Christian about it," 66-year-old Carroll Thompson said in an interview at the family's house just outside Lynchburg, home of Liberty University, the Christian school founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell.

Doris Thompson, who's 69, said she was stunned when she received a letter last month saying the school can deny enrollment to applicants for condoning "sexual immorality," homosexuality or alternative gender identity.

Principal Becky Bowman wrote that "we believe that unless Sunnie as well as her family clearly understand that God has made her female and her dress and behavior need to follow suit with her God-ordained identity, that TCS is not the best place for her future education."

Doris Thompson said Sunnie knows she is a girl and has never, to her knowledge, wished she were a boy.

Other disputes over gender expression at school have made headlines recently, including a demand, later rescinded, that a 9-year-old North Carolina boy cease carrying a My Little Pony backpack to school. But that case and others involved public schools rather than private religious academies that are not subject to anti-discrimination laws.

After a television news report about the Thompsons created a social media frenzy, the school retained the legal arm of Liberty University to tell its side. Mat Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, said there is more to the situation than the Thompsons are saying.

"This is not at all about how she is dressing or she is going through a phase," Staver said in a telephone interview.

However, he said confidentiality laws prevented him from being more specific and school officials would rather not try to rebut the Thompsons' allegations. Earl Prince, an administrator at the school, also declined to discuss what prompted Bowman's letter.

Doris Thompson said she is unaware of anything, other than Sunnie's appearance and tomboy ways, that would prompt the school's action. She said Sunnie made good grades, was well-behaved and got along with the other children. New classmates would sometimes ask if she were a boy or a girl, but she would answer and that would be the end of it, Thompson said.

Bowman acknowledged in her letter that the school's position doesn't stem from Sunnie's grades or "general cooperation with school rules."

Staver said school officials were dismayed that the Thompsons chose not to resolve the issue with them privately. He said school officials would like to have Sunnie back.

"The school has never called the girl immoral, has never evicted her and is willing to work with her," Staver said. "She is a precious little girl."

This year, a girl mistook Sunnie for a boy in the girls' restroom and reported it to a teacher, and two boys tried to drag Sunnie into the boys' restroom. Sunnie said the boys got in trouble, but she did too "for yelling down the hallway."

Sunnie, eager to break away from an interview and ride her bike, said she liked Timberlake better than the public school she is now attending.

"I had a lot of friends there," she said of the school she attended since age 3.

Doris Thompson said Sunnie would grow her hair so she could return to Timberlake, but her husband said that's "out of the question."

Sunnie's troubles at Timberlake began in pre-kindergarten after she cut her hair to donate it to a program that provides wigs for cancer patients, Doris Thompson said. Around then, she started wanting boys' clothes.

"A teacher told me I was the parent and I needed to control her, and if she didn't obey I needed to take her in the bathroom and whip her butt," Thompson said.

Rather than just dismiss the teacher's concerns, she asked the family doctor for advice. "He said, 'Leave that child alone!'" she said.

Afterward, Thompson said the teacher told her: "You need to find a Christian doctor."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/christian-school-tomboy-_n_5051934.html

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Christian school tells girl she's too boyish

Eight-year-old girl Sunnie Kahle was kicked out of her private Christian school in Lynchburg,Virginia because of her tomboy appearance and toys that were not feminine enough.

Becky Bowman, Timberlake Christian School principal, sent a letter to Kahle's grandparents, Doris and Carroll Thompson, saying that students in the school have been confused about whether Kahle is a girl or a boy, Washington Post reported.
In the letter, Bowman stated that if Kahle does not act and dress more like a girl, TCS is not the best school for her future education as it is a religious institute that believes in the Bible and provides education in a manifestly Christian environment.

The letter added that Kahle and her family need to clearly understand that Kahle's behavior and dress have to conform to her God-ordained identity as God has made her a girl.

Infuriated by the letter, the guardians asserted that their granddaughter realizes that she is a female but she just wants to do boy things. They found it inappropriate for the school to label an eight-year-old child.

The guardians said that when their granddaughter was five years old, she asked them to have her hair cut short so she could donate them to a child with cancer, then she started wanting to wear a T-shirt and jeans instead of her dresses.

TCS administrators eventually took notice when students were questioning Kahle's appearance. A school administrator said that Kahle is a good student but she is causing a classroom commotion.
Kahle herself wants to just be able to be herself and not let other people worry about it. Her grandparents want the same for her.

Currently, the eight-year-old girl is attending a public school although TCS did not require her to leave. Her grandparents said she still wants to go back to TCS to see her friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXZ63226TIs