Yes, exactly! I also thought Robert was so so much closer to an end product(water heater) based on what they told us. He and others have been working on it since before 2005, won an award and claimed they had models coming out. I thought WDRP came in at the end of the design cycle just prior to releasing water heaters. Now it appears they don't even have a water heater at all coming to market. They have a heat engine they expect a manufacturer to run with and design a water heater from it.