here is what I dont get. what are the jeff guys objective with this bad DD and math? Jeff lost, he is gone, it is over. I mean if anyone thinks Joe did anything illegal, then do something other than that it is OLD OLD stuff that has been settled. I feel that many were taken by dean and jeff, heck I was one, but then Joe came and did that great move of the R/S and I made out ok, played it right and many have as well, they post it all the time. so why care about OLD OLD MATH or if someone wanted to create a better web site and help keep shareholder more informed by being transparent? ( although I loved those Initiatives!!) If you can help please let me know, thanks.