thanks Pie, it just sort of started as that's why it is decent entry but at the same time you are right the chart isn't much help in this case, i guess what i meant is it should be a decent mover that is gaining speed setting up for next week. It will be fun to chart this in 3 weeks to a month and see where it has come, see if it really does perform as well as expected etc. for now though it is just a good "momo" or risk/reward strength play - good luck tomorrow for all.