Those you mention i respect for their achievements, for who they are .. they're great today .. lol, much prefer them to any politician of the GOP .. that doesn't mean to agree with them on everything.
The reason i suggested you have a closer look at Juan Cole's post is that .. well .. i dunno .. here are his points 8-10 again ..
8. Israeli hawks justify their aggression on the Palestinians on grounds of self-defense. But Israel is a country of 7.5 million people with tanks, armored vehicles, artillery, helicopter gunships and F-16s and F-18s, plus 400 nuclear warheads. Gaza is a small occupied territory of 1.7 million which has no heavy weaponry, just some old guns and some largely ineffectual rockets. (Israelis cite hundreds of rockets fired into Israel from Gaza in 2012; but until Israel’s recent attack they had killed not a single Israeli, though they did wound a few last March when fighting between Palestinians and Israelis escalated.) Gaza is a threat to Israel the way the Transkei Bantustan was a threat to Apartheid South Africa. As for genuine asymmetrical threats from Gaza to Israel, they could be dealt with by giving the Palestinians a state and ceasing the blockade imposed on them, or in the worst case scenario counter-terrorism targeted at terrorists rather than indiscriminate bombing campaigns.
10. Although most American media is a cheering section for the Likud Party, in fact the world is increasingly done out with Israel’s aggressiveness .. http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2012/11/16/john-mearsheimer/a-pillar-built-on-sand/. Boycotts and sanctions will likely grow over time, leaving Israeli hawks with a deficit…
ordinary people .. on a different level .. those who toil ceaselessly here and everywhere in opposition to the barbarian grossly obdurate party, today's GOP, and others as them who toil against ignorance, everywhere ..
have never been much for the hero label .. oh .. Nelson Mandela was one .. most all do their best where able ..
AND yes, of course MLK .. all your Freedom Riders .. and those at our Eureka Stockade ..
Lebaneseproud .. ‘PA not to drop UN membership bid’ ..
Posted on August 4, 2011 - Thu Aug 4, 2011 1:20PM GMT
Chief negotiator of the Palestinian Authority (PA) Saeb Erakat
The Palestinian Authority (PA) says it will not abandon its plans of requesting the United Nations to recognize Palestine as a full member state despite Israel’s obstructionist efforts.
On Wednesday, the PA’s chief negotiator, Saeb Erakat, said, “The Palestinian train is now heading towards New York,” referring to the organization’s intentions to present the membership request at the UN General Assembly in September, AFP reported.
Erakat dismissed as a mere public relations stunt the recent statements by an Israeli official who alleged that Tel Aviv was inclined to renew talks with the Palestinians if they drop their UN membership bid.
Erakat made the comments during a session of a committee tasked by the regional grouping of the Arab League (AL) to assist the Palestinians’ UN membership efforts.
The committee also endorsed a final draft of the Palestinian request.
Erakat also said the committee has “reached a final agreement to request the full support for a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders.”
In 1967, Israeli forces captured the Palestinian territories of the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and East al-Quds (Jerusalem).
The Israeli military carried out a so-called withdrawal from Gaza in 2005, but has kept the territory under recurrent deadly attacks. In June 2007, the Israeli regime laid an economic siege on the Gaza Strip after the democratically-elected Hamas took over the administration of the enclave.
The blockade has had a disastrous impact on the humanitarian and economic situation in the impoverished territory.
forgot to include it in my other reply .. i do support the bid .. most every movement fighting against severe repression as Bantustanization has a political side and a military side .. 'extremists', too
Lebaneseproud - more heroes, Capt. Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger, a hero, i just saw the Hudson River landing again .. same news Mayanmar .. of course! Aung San Suu Kyi .. they got me onto thinking heroes? again .. other politicians? .. must be .. any for you? .. was at a neighbor's and during i asked a lady who shrugged, "never really had any." .. so i named the ones given to you before .. she agreed .. kept thinking of Obama .. you did say "your hero" .. oh, Gandhi, comes to mind just now .. heroes? .. people you feel good about? .. people one really really appreciates being around at the time? .. so home thinking to add some for you .. i googled Myanmar, to ..
Obama’s Myanmar speech layered with popular appeal
Associated Press - November 20, 2012
Martinez Monsivais/AP
President Obama told Aung San Suu Kyi, a former opposition leader, that he was inspired by her.
President Obama spoke Monday to hundreds of students, officials, and former generals in long-closed Myanmar about freedom and the importance of finding strength in diversity. But for some, the more significant message came from what he did, not what he said.
Instead of traveling to the isolated capital, Naypyitaw, Obama became the first foreign leader to meet with President Thein Sein in Yangon, Myanmar’s largest city and cultural heart.
While the government says the location was chosen for logistical reasons, many cheered Obama’s decision to give a speech at the University of Yangon, a place brimming with opposition history and personal memories for many in the audience, rather than sequester himself with top leaders in the empty, soulless capital built by the former military junta in 2006.
‘‘The arrangement was made for mutual convenience,’’ said Zaw Htay, the director of the president’s office, citing the president’s time constraints.
The diverse 1,500-member audience — students, activists, lawmakers, former generals, and members of ethnic minority groups — mingled for several hours listening to jazz music while waiting for Obama to arrive.
Everyone, including the former generals and parliamentarians, had to walk through the same security gantlet. There was no VIP line, which surprised some in this hierarchical society.
‘‘We couldn’t even think of that two or three months ago,’’ said Rebecca Htin, an ethnic Karen.
‘‘The message is clear. We are moving more toward democracy. That’s encouraging for me.’’
‘‘There’s no separation because of Mr. Obama,’’ said Nge Nge Aye Maung, the chairwoman of the Association of Myanmar Disabled Women Affairs. ‘‘There’s no ranking. We are all together. We are all human beings. That’s human rights.’’
But there were still signs of the old days. Plainclothes government security personnel videotaped guests as they walked to the university’s Convocation Hall to hear Obama talk about freedom.
Is it Myanmar or Burma? Obama calls it both on visit
Officially at least, America still refers to Myanmar as Burma, the favored appellation of dissidents and prodemocracy activists who opposed the former military junta’s move to summarily change its name 23 years ago.
President Obama used that name during his historic visit Monday, but he also called Burma what its government and many other people have been calling it for years: Myanmar.
Obama’s use of that name was warmly welcomed by top government officials, who immediately imbued it with significance.
Myanmar presidential adviser Ko Ko Hlaing called the wording ‘‘very positive’’ and said it was an ‘‘acknowledgment of Myanmar’s government,’’ which has taken steps toward easing repression and transitioning to democratic rule since the military stepped aside last year.
US Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes said the presidential phrasing was ‘‘a diplomatic courtesy’’ for Myanmar’s reformist President Thein Sein.
Democracy icon stands at side of a US president
Aung San Suu Kyi, the former opposition leader who endured decades of harassment and house arrest in her struggle for a free and democratic Myanmar, welcomed President Obama to her home for a meeting Monday.
Now a member of Parliament, Suu Kyi lives in a gated villa in Yangon, with razor wire along the top of the compound’s walls and a lawn ringed with roses. She once was held under house arrest in the same building.
Obama thanked her for her ‘‘extraordinary hospitality and grace’’ and the power of her example, which he said ‘‘has been inspiration to people all around the world, including myself.’’
Speaking to reporters, Suu Kyi, a Nobel laureate, cautioned that the transition to democracy will be a long road.
“We have to be very careful that we’re not lured by the mirage of success,’’ she said.
.. for maybe See also? i searched Myanmar .. first one ..
Apparently there is a concern on the part of some in the US that Burma, also known as Myanmar, is too friendly with North Korea...But perhaps through Burma the U.S. could see our relations with NK change for the better. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81656195
good positive stuff there from Peg .. the 2nd on the list an arizona "pics" mention .. lol which led to Stephanie's ..
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