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10/23/12 2:13 PM

#201123 RE: arvitar #201122

Dead wrong. Tankers full of spec fuel leave the plant on a regular basis.

I think it's possible that cash flow positive will be sooner than we've been told. We'll know very soon.

So sorry. :-(
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Rawnoc

10/23/12 2:20 PM

#201125 RE: arvitar #201122

Agilyx? Puh-leaze.

(1) Agilyx latest cost estimates -- $70/barrel <~~slide 15
JBII latest cost estimates -- under $9/barrel

(2) Agilyx 144 ton a day plant capital cost -- $43.7 million minimum <~~slide 7
JBII 144 ton a day plant capital cost -- $8.5 million max

(3) Agilyx average expected annual ROI -- +10-15% (payback takes 5 years) <~~slide 15
JBII average expected annual ROI -- well over +200% (payback less 4 months at 75% up time)
http://postimage.org/image/y1uezgx53
http://www.tpsalliance.org/assets/files/Agilyx%20Slides_Boise2012.pdf

(4) Agilyx sells machines "near cost" and a "lease to own" option where Agilyx has to front the capital cost for the "customer"
http://www.flexpack.org/PDFs/Publications/Resource_Recovery_Alternatives_to_Landfill_Pilot_Program.pdf

(5) Agilyx 5 full time employees per shift for less than 1 ton input an hour (1760 lbs/hour)
http://www.waste-to-fuels.com/proceedings/2011/content/pdf/Feucht_L.pdf

(6) Agilyx makes neither fuel nor oil -- but their own permit says "a gel-like substance" that "must be heated to 130° – 150 F to effectively transfer it"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65745841

(7) Agilyx needs oil at $80/barrel just to be "competitive" (aka break-even?) leaving very little return on investment to even cover SG&A costs. NOT VIABLE.


(8) Agilyx's requires natural gas to run their systems as their off-gas is so toxic the employees require GAS MASKS while working and Agilyx themselves admit they produce toxic gas. Watch the video.
(try not to laugh too hard)

(9) "The finished product is the consistency of peanut butter." ~~Agilyx's own words in their presentation

( LOL -- and we thought "gel-like substance" as described in their permit was bad. Wow....just wow )

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=78400801




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Steady_T

10/23/12 2:38 PM

#201126 RE: arvitar #201122

The problem is that no one knows what price Agilyx gets for its peanut butter goo.

So far there is only one place that admits to having bought the stuff and they haven't said what price they paid for it.

Why won't Agilyx release the production amounts and sales price for their goo. Are they hiding something?

Unlike JBI which has shown purchase orders for its products at $109.80 a barrel.