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wbmw

10/08/12 12:58 PM

#112417 RE: mas #112416

It's a ploy to quickly get the low leakage effects of 14nm FinFET transistors on a 20nm planar process.


Sounds great for yields (not!). I wonder what it will do to the wafer costs - or does GF intend to propogate their losses by adding cost and cutting prices?
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RobertG

10/08/12 4:37 PM

#112423 RE: mas #112416

From the silicon investor qualcomm board:


http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster

There are now more than 420 announced Snapdragon-based devices with over 400 more in design, including 175 S4 designs. .....

Device models using chipset in parenthesis.

Broadcom

….. BCM21553 (9)
…...BCM2157 (2)

Nvidia Tegra 3 (45)

MediaTek (36)

Intel Atom (7)

QCOM Snapdragon-
..APQ8055 (3)
..APQ8060 (50)
..APQ806a (2)
..APQ8064 (8)
..MSM8225 (2)
..MSM8227 (1)
..MSM8255 (76)
..MSM8255T (48)
..MSM8260 (41)
..MSM8260A (12)
..MSM8625 (3)
..MSM8655 (26)
..MSM8655T (15)
..MSM8660 (17)
..MSM8660A (6)
..MSM8930 (1)
..MSM8960 (58)
..MSM8960 Lite (5)
..MSM8960 Pro (1)
..QSD8250 (76)
..QSD8650 (16)
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DDB

10/09/12 1:56 AM

#112439 RE: mas #112416

GF mentioned 14+20nm also in their FAQ (incl. the first sentence), which I tweeted on 20th September.

But using 20nm (still not common for ARM etc) with more efficient transistors might be OK. In these days it is not enough to make a smaller chip to save $5 on the BOM of a $600 smartphone, but it should deliver more performance and battery life to better suit the more demanding apps.