Replies to post #7408 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[sylvester80]

I agree. This is exactly the point of this post #msg-802399. Here it seems that some people have a double standard. They can call all the names they want about Clinton, Palestinians, Arafat, Saddam, Iraqis, the French, gays, women who have abortions etc... yet it's fine by them and is not hate. But when someone has a different view than them he is an anti-semite or <put your favorite label here>. Sheesh... The label at the top of the header says it all. TALK POLITICS and "Any burning desires to "label" politicians and their supporters with whatever adjectives is allowed here.".

[sarai]

Hey maine!! :) Thru out history the Bible has been used to support the most intolerant, immoral and "ungodly" positions imaginable.... Altho none of us can judge, one can only imagine that God has not been pleased with the minds and acts of many.....

Within the last century, post WW2, there were Southern religious "zealots" who justified their abhorent racial bigotry and discrimination practices using the Bible, ie "the races don't mix".... This is no different than contemporary fundamentalists using the Bible to justify an antigay position, imo. We are first human, and all the rest is superficial.... And ignorance is, and will always be, ignorance.

I didn't find syl to be antisemitic, or antiJews. He adopted a strong anti-Sharon gov stance. I am no fan of Sharon either, whatsoever... Jews feel a sense of "collective responsibility", etc. But to say it is antisemitic to be anti-Sharon gov, or anti-IDF is nuts. I support neither. The Israel/Palestinian situation is complex and tragic... If there were specific anti-Jewish statements in syls posts, I didn't see them. If there were not, it is anti-American to disallow syl the right to express political views, especially regarding Israel, where without US support Israel would cease to exist....

The fact that Biblically sanctioned anti-gay (anti-human) rhetoric was permitted, while anti-Sharon gov was heavily criticised is silly. Coat hangers, handicapped kid and 3 legged frogs were expressions of gross ignorance, and deserve no further comment....

As you are aware, I have other very meaningful and profoundly important stuff to involve myself with now. And I honestly thank you for your help. This is trivial and ignorance rarely dignifies a response. You are top notch!! :)

Best regards! S... :)

[deadbeat45]

>>im also disgusted with some posters intolerance toward gays, part of the doulble standard....if its not ok to be anti semitic or speak critically of sharon and Isreal..then why is it ok to hide behind the bible (or not) and have intolerance for gays....im directing that to mlsoft and others and also to zeev as you are the moderator. Much like the Jews, the gays have been persecuted thru history..in some ways more than Jews/intolerated...but thats ok as long as one is religiouos....i think not and frankly i am saddened to see that view tolerated here...


If it's anti-gay it's intelorance....
I'm wondering just when is it good and right in your eyes to be intolerant. Pedophelia, Murder, Stealing.... somewhere I'm sure you are going to be intolerant. As for persecuting (harassment) that's not very loving imho, the government should do prosecutions, not lynch mobs.