Zen, although that's what seems to be going on, ie. vista 1.2, aka, a 'slog to vista'. This time though, it's not necessarily M/S in the drivers seat. Intel, STM, Atmel and others are now well, taking the lead? As Weby stated so articulately. It's interesting to see sks speak ambiquity, and the way the market has shifted the last. 'For me, seven years now'... TTT... good day to you all. Rbt.