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Kadin

06/03/12 8:30 AM

#9101 RE: wshaw14 #9099

The SEC and the DA's within the States companies are registered, have taken aggressive actions against backdating and these 'shell companies' (KATX) who scam investors.

Much bigger and better informed companies via Law Firms who handled ALL their Filings have been charged and fined by the SEC and the DA's and it doesn't matter one iota who voted to approve or assign any date, ie, the company or their legal advisor.

Backdating has variations, but the reason for charges and penalties in hundreds of Firms with this issue are the 'Intentions' and come under that violation.

The risk here, regardless of the label used for the 'dividend'...

It may be deemed fraudulent and prove the 'INTENTIONS' during the pumping in 2010 was an 'ENTICEMENT.'

Who might make the claim and why?

That's not hard to prognosticate...
ALL the investors who were shareholders during the July 16, 2010 'Record Date.'

Furthermore...
I know of no reason why they failed to use the original 'Record Date as the Accurate Date', and "why they didn't make the initial distribution", never having to explain 'why' and using a backdate doesn't get them past that question - they still didn't make the 'Initial' distribution.

That said...
Backdating and this new 'Special Dividend' serves to make the entire transaction look suspicious, and casts a shadow over the issue of 'Intentions' and does not excuse the company or hold them harmless!

This information is from an Attorney.


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jeffn

06/03/12 10:27 AM

#9102 RE: wshaw14 #9099

not familiar with what is exactly going on here but if it's a divi over 25% of the security price, you are correct. record date really means nothing. whoever has the stock settled in their account on the pay date gets the divi.
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gump90

06/03/12 1:56 PM

#9130 RE: wshaw14 #9099

All fine and good - shaw - but read my posts on the other Board re fraud and the back-dating of the Record Date. You are only looking at the period after the announced Record Date. My point concerns just before the Record Date for innocent loyal shareholders who may have got fed up finally and SOLD. With information being hidden. Had they known about the spin-off soon enough as is the case with all dividends THEY WOULD NOT HAVE SOLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They CAN say with conviction that they were defrauded.