Replies to post #1568 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[Zeev Hed]

sylvester, now you are getting me really upset, my Father was one of those "terrorists" fighting the Germans in WWII (and was of course executed for his troubles), but he never targeted a single civilian German nor other civilians in his efforts, he bombed an SS command center that included a list of all Jews to be deported to Auschwitz, a printing outfit that printed "ration cards" (to supply the macquis and an organization that was hiding thousands of Jewish kids in the countryside with those ration cards), derailing armed forces trains and few other acts of "terror" against the occupying army which was butchering his people in gas chambers. That is in stark contradiction to terrorists that target civilians only. It is personally offensive to me when you even attempt to put the two activities side by side. Furthermore, terrorists like my father were "fair game" and not one German commander was brought to trial for executing what were indeed "enemy combatants". Armed terrorists are indeed "fair game", just as my father was, armed terrorists that target civilians are even "fairer game", they are war criminal (unlike my father who was just a terrorist or freedom fighter). They can surrender and stand trial, or die in battle. Most surrender. When they surrender, they are not even executed (unlike the "terrorists" caught by the German Nazi machine, most of which were executed within weeks of their capture)

Show me a German occupation court listening to argument against deportation from Brussel to Aschwitz of a Jewish family (wheter or not one of their members was a "terrorist), but the family of a Palestinian terrorist can got to the Israeli supreme court and obtain not only a stay against deportation from the west bank to Gaza, but win the vacuation of the deportation order as well.

I'll make it very clear to you, if you once more make an analogy between Palestinian terrorists that target civilians and the like of my father, you will assure that you cut off all communications between the two of us. The choice is yours. Yor lack of cooth and your moral rudeness is amazing, and that is the best I could say.

Zeev

[brainlessone]

sylvester why do you care about "palestinians"? the Ingush were deported from the eastern black sea and sent to siberia by the Soviet Union, hundreds of thousands maybe millions. the armenians were butcherd by the turks.

and countless other groups of people have been far more unjustly treated than the people living on the west bank of the jordan. they had their own government for the last ten years, no body was killing them, there was no occupation etc etc?

and the same peoples live in israel and jordan and on the west bank : the circassians to name one group. It is a political problem kept alive in the world for 60 years and used by others to foment hatred and bitterness when it should not have started in the first place, using the "palestinians" as cannon fodder and the israelis as cannon fodder and scapegoats

There are a bunch of better groups of people around the world to get frustrated about the handling therof.

The Shan people are getting raped in Burma. millions of them. does anyone care?

see

http://www.unpo.org/

and

http://www.turkey.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=4803

how things were under the turks:

http://www.gerty.ncl.ac.uk/letters/l381.htm

this is how things are now:

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/2002/06/28/31404.html



So I want to know why are the palestinians so important. They were not even there 150 years ago. I have never been able to understand it.

[Math Junkie]

"You might as well start comparing then to Nazi Germany rather than Jordan for better comparison as Nazi Germany also occupied land and killed people belonging to that land which by the way formed terrorist groups (freedom fighters) trying to inflict damage (in any shape or form) to the Germans to leave their land (which of course meant reprisals by the Germans just like now in the occupied territories)."

Nazi Germany is a better comparison to Israel than Jordan? Next I suppose you are going to tell us the Israelis are exterminating millions of Palestinians in gas chambers.