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BRIG_88

04/23/11 1:18 PM

#103165 RE: jimmenknee #103163

Nope...dirty unwashed plastics have ZERO effect on the machine...in FACT the machine doesn't even have to be stopped to clear refuse...it's extracted via a chute at the bottom so JBII can run any plastic through the machine...clean pristine plastic or dirty unwashed plastic....if anything the cost per barrel of fuel is going DOWN...not up........helps if you've been on site and see this work...as for the recycling center DEC doesn't have diddly to say about it...it's in Canada...
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Justice37

04/23/11 1:30 PM

#103167 RE: jimmenknee #103163

Still waiting for you links for Agilyx dude, waiting, waiting, waiting...provide real information, what is the percentage of waste????? The only way the discussion moves forward is if you get to the point where you provide real facts. You can get them if you call Agilyx!

Remember, garbage in, garbage out, simple concept, only hydrocarbons are turned into fuel, that is why Agilyx, by their own admission, produce their product for $52 a barrel and can only sell it for $65-$70 and yes, I provided the links to that information yesterday. Agilyx have to send it to a refinery and who then would have to send it to a blender if it was to be used for fuel on the road. JBI's front end processing, of some plastics, is a "simple" process that results in acids that "have value." The plastics JBI does not have to pre-process, result in waste for the Agilyx system which does not use a catalyst and produces more waste that they send into the atmosphere or take out when parts of the processor are shut down. JBI's is more economical and actually adds profit for the company.

Recycling facility, profit maker, that means it's a good thing.

JBI have not added an "air filter", are we clear on that, the filters they added are for the fuel so that it goes from the absolute filthy 8 parts per million of sulfur (that was sarcasm) to the current 0.5 parts per million, clear?

Again, tired of this, respond to facts, provide links to support your facts, the only link you have provided so far in relation to Agilyx is a post from last September where someone made a claim you didn't like.



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Steady_T

04/23/11 1:43 PM

#103174 RE: jimmenknee #103163

JBI chose to concentrate on the output.....True story. It's always better to produce a product that the market wants than to produce the product you want and then try to find a market for it.

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The "system" is growing-- and you got your 1st filter too, which is hinting at issues with maintaining the quality of the output.
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If you had read a little close you might have noticed that the new filter is a particulate filter. It is part of the modifications that allow the system to run much longer between shutdowns for clean out. That filter represents a net reduction in operational costs.


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The $10/barrel cost is increasing as well as the $200k/processor cost as a result.
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So far there is no evidence of the cost per barrel going up.

That $200K price was specified as being the cost of the processor only. The Franchisee is responsible for site preparation, foundations, buildings, land costs, etc.

The $400k to $900K cost mentioned in the 10K includes all of those things with the exception of land costs.

These two sets of costs are entirely consistent with each other. They are costs of different scope.

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Rawnoc

04/23/11 2:37 PM

#103186 RE: jimmenknee #103163

Hogwash. The $10 per barrel cost is DECLINING if anything. The processor is so automated at this point you practically have to make up costs. Literally.

The $10/barrel cost is increasing as well as the $200k/processor cost as a result.



$200k/processor was the cost of the equipment itself I believe. $400k - $900k is all costs included.