Replies to post #103058 on Plastic2Oil Inc (PTOI)

[BRIG_88]

Agilyx is hilarious with that monstrosity of a machine that costs i think like 7 million and takes like 20 people to run it and produces pudding? JBII is going to blow them away and they will fade away...

[stocker11]

Is that 70% 0f wholesale price (WTI). It is anticipated that JBIIs process will sell retail - 200 liters of fuel per barrel at today's retail price in Canada 1.34 = 268.00 per barrel x 109 barrels a day = 29,212. - taxes.
How many barrels of product that Agilyx make - perhaps you can do the math for us.


At one time, it was argued that Agilyx was getting full market value for their product when it benefitted propping up JBI-fuel pricing. Recently that has changed to ~70% of current market.

[Justice37]

Re: At one time, it was argued that Agilyx was getting full market value for their product when it benefitted propping up JBI-fuel pricing. Recently that has changed to ~70% of current market.

I'm glad to say we were wrong and it isn't 70%, it's $65-$70 and it seems to be fixed, if oil stays above $100 a barrel than this does not work out so well. The change is that the company actually posted that information.
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/making-fuel-from-dirty-plastic/

Man-hours are not similar, Two people can operate two JBI processors and because of updates that Rawnoc and Brig reported it seems they can operate even more because of automation changes with JBI.

I have yet to find any waste statistics for Agilyx despite asking you two times previously, JBI has 2% waste, again, what is the percentage of waste for Agilyx???? Agilyx does not use a catalyst, they have to have scrubbers and air filters and even then they pump way more into the atmosphere and I got that information from one of your posts last year. JBI's emmisions are the same as that of similar sized heating furnace, that is a fact, they don't need scrubbers or air filters or even sensors on their stack.

My contention about the recycling facility is that if it makes a profit and that profit should lower the cost per barrel even more as some, such as yourself, want to add the recycling facility to the price per barrel when you mistakenly believe it costs the company, turn around is fair play.

JBI says there is significant increase in competition???? Agilyx, seven years, one processor, 10 tons a day, $2.5 million, Envion, one machine, $4-5 million, JBI, building second (or perhaps completing it) for what was last reported as $200,000 but lets make it $500,000 for the sake of argument, and the new models process 30 tons per day. Hmmmm, not seeing the competition especially since both Agilyx and the Envion fuel has to go to a refinery and JBI's just needs to be blended.

SynCrude, LOL...
The other partner is Adriondack Plastics and Paper Recycling under the name SynCrude LLC, not to be confused with Syncrude Canada who are an Alberta Oil Sands partner. Website not updated since 2008, can't even find a website for SynCrude LLC or any news, they were supposed to start their $6 million factory by, now, nothing, nada, zip started yet....
http://www.plasticsworldwide.com/News.aspx
http://www.sustainablebusinessoregon.com/national/2010/10/recycler-plans-6m-plant-to-turn.html