Yes I agree. A year ago I was almost alone with my skeptical negative posts. Now there are many other Members here who think like I do about the whole KAT thing. A lot of the irresponsible exuberant pumper / hypers however are also still here. One of the things I have not wavered on is the importance of the financings in this business. And to this date with KATX we still don't know the details alluded to a year ago regarding the $5 million and the 50 million shares. It started to be equated at 10 cents a share. Now with $2 million drawn and spent, that would be a cost of 4 cents a share for the financiers so far.