kozuh, am sure i read somewhere that all who have ever lived would be resurrected on the end day. Something to do with if all weren't then it would not prove Jesus was eternal. Not sure why or why not. Sorry i forget.
Whatever the IDEA, in my eyes it's all a cute fairytale. This on first glance looks to be a bit new for me me .. excerpt ..
The doctrine of the resurrection of the body. The continuity of Ratzinger’s theological views from his apparently-radical past is seen in his best known, most systematic book, Introduction to Christianity. The book seeks to explain the Apostles’ Creed in the light of contemporary Roman Catholic dogma. When Ratzinger approaches the clause, “I believe in the resurrection of the body”, he recognises that this doctrine is a “stumbling block to the modern mind” (p 232). His definition is both strange and ambiguous. “Resurrection”, he writes, “expresses the idea that the immortality of man can exist and be thought of only in the fellowship of men” (p 172).
Ok, i've always thought the resurrection was a good idea. Is Ratzinger there saying it is only an idea? So one is eternal in other peoples minds? That's the only eternal I ever thought made any sense.
The doctrine, he claims,creates a “curious dilemma” (p 238) because modern liberal theologians no longer believe that body and soul can be identified as separate entities, something that Ratzinger dismisses, together with the immortality of the soul, as a Greek notion which has “become obsolete” (p 241).
Ratzinger’s book, Eschatology: Death and Eternal Life, covers, amongst other things, the nature of the resurrection. He notes that the accepted view among modern Roman Catholic and liberal Protestant theologians is that body and soul expire at the point of death and that “the proper Christian thing, therefore, is to speak, not of the soul’s immortality, but of the resurrection of the complete human being and of that alone” (p 105). He notes that the word soul has disappeared from Roman Catholic liturgy (also from Roman Catholic Bible translations) as a consequence. Ratzinger offers his own new definition of the soul: “The ‘soul’ is our term for that in us which offers a foothold for this relation [with the eternal]. Soul is nothing other than man’s capacity for relatedness with truth, with love eternal” (p 259). The soul is therefore defined heretically as the capacity for relationship rather than real spiritual substance; having a soul means “being God’s partner in dialogue”.
Sounds like Benedict was saying that an atheist not having a dialogue with God would not have a soul. Since the soul is only an idea anyway that's only one less idea an atheist would have. Not so bad. LOL
In Introduction to Christianity, Ratzinger explicitly denies the resurrection of the body. “It now becomes clear that the real heart of faith in the resurrection does not consist at all in the idea of the restoration of bodies, to which we have reduced it in our thinking; such is the case even though this is the pictorial image used throughout the Bible”. He says that the word body, or flesh, in the phrase, the resurrection of the body, “in effect means ‘the world of man’ . . . [it is] not meant in the sense of a corporality isolated from the soul” (pp 240-41).
Ratzinger is deliberately using a meaning that is impossible in the context, in order to explain away the clear meaning of the text. This is also done in relation to the word for body (Greek: soma), which he says can also mean self. He draws the conclusion that “one thing at any rate may be fairly clear: both John (6:63) and Paul (1 Cor 15:50) state with all possible emphasis that the ‘resurrection of the flesh’, the ‘resurrection of the body’, is not a ‘resurrection of physical bodies’. . . . Paul teaches, not the resurrection of physical bodies, but the resurrection of persons, and this not in the return of ‘flesh body’, that is, the biological structure, an idea he expressly describes as impossible (‘the perishable cannot become imperishable’) but in the different form of the life of the resurrection, as shown in the risen Lord” (p 246).
Ratzinger could not be more explicit about his interpretation of “the biblical pronouncements about the resurrection”. He says that “their essential content is not the conception of a restoration of bodies to souls after a long interval; their aim is to tell men that they, they themselves, live on . . . because they are known and loved by God in a way that they can no longer perish . . . the essential part of man, the person, remains . . . it goes on existing because it lives in God’s memory”
It's sure complicated gobbledegook for this guy. Yours was much simpler, and thanks for it. In my tomorrow I'll have a look at both of these again, just in an effort to understand the superstitions people still hold.
In your mind is your post of the Pope's position on resurrection consistent with the one above?
Police: Local Priest Offered Sex to Officers After Arrest
Video report [embedded] [apparently complete video of the priest holding forth in his holding cell below]: Priest Busted for OVI A local priest may need more than the Lord's forgiveness after what police officers say he did Sunday night. Fox 8's Suzanne Stratford has the bizarre story...
By Suzanne Stratford Fox 8 News Reporter 10:51 p.m. EST, March 2, 2011
BRIMFIELD TOWNSHIP, Ohio — A local priest may need more than the Lord's forgiveness after what police officers say he did Sunday night.
"I sum it up as unusual at best," said Brimfield Township Police Chief David Blough.
It started just after 11:45 p.m. Sunday when officers received a report of a car off the side of the road at the intersection of Meloy and Sandylake roads.
Father Ignatius Kury was laying down in the back seat of the vehicle.
"He was extremely intoxicated," said Chief Blough.
Kury tested three times the legal limit and was taken to the police station for processing. Officers say that's when things really got interesting.
Police rolled a video tape of the incident to protect themselves and use it as evidence in court.
"Because of the fact that one of my officers walked by the holding cell and he was exposing himself," said Chief Blough.
Kury is heard on the tape saying, "I'll give you a sermon on the mount."
According to Chief Blough, the priest's rant lasted over 20 minutes during which he threatened and propositioned officers.
Kury is heard saying, "I'll pay you whatever you want. What do you want? Want me to give you a [expletive]? Is that what you want?" "Do you want me to be a sexual slave?"
Eventually, Kury was released on bond.
He could've faced additional charges for his actions inside the holding cell, but Chief Blough says the OVI charge and videotape are punishment enough.
Kury will have his first court hearing March 4, 2011.
No one could be reached for comment at Father Kury's parish, Holy Ghost Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic Church, on Brown Street in Akron.
Ouch, we don't want to be Father Ignatius Kury on Sunday morning.
The inebriated priest was picked up by Ohio cops after wrecking his car while driving under the influence; his level of intoxication measured at three times the legal limit.
After bringing the disoriented priest to the station, the officers handcuffed him in a holding cell. At that point, Kury took the opportunity to demand to be released and offered the police a few, well, "favors" in return for being let go. When that failed, he moved on to threatening them with a visit from Oprah Winfrey, and finally, realizing you catch more flies with honey, regaled his captors with a mangled rendition of the "Star Spangled banner."
File this one under, "Did that really just happen?"
Historians put 17th-century witch trial diary online
A 350-year-old notebook, written by an English Puritan named Nehemiah Wallington, recounts the fate of women accused of having relationships with the devil. CHICC Manchester
Notebook recounts fate of women accused of having relationships with the devil
By Michelle Martin Reuters updated 3/3/2011 3:21:03 PM ET
LONDON — A 350-year-old notebook which documents the trials of women convicted of witchcraft in England during the 17th century has been published online.
The notebook written by Nehemiah Wallington, an English Puritan, recounts the fate of women accused of having relationships with the devil at a time when England was embroiled in a bitter civil war.
The document reveals the details of a witchcraft trial held in Chelmsford in July 1645, when more than a hundred suspected witches were serving time in Essex and Suffolk according to his account.
"Divers (many) of them voluntarily and without any forcing or compulsion freely declare that they have made a covenant with the Devill," he wrote.
"Som Christians have been killed by their meanes," he added.
Of the 30 women on trial in Chelmsford, 14 were hanged.
Wallington also recounts the experiences of Rebecca West, a suspected witch who confessed to sleeping with the devil when she was tortured because "she found her selfe in such extremity of torture and amazement that she would not enure (endure) it againe for the world." Her confession spared her.
Carol Burrows, who managed the notebook's digitization, on Thursday told Reuters that Wallington's journal was important because of its connections to the civil war.
"It's a personal account and it tells us a lot about the time — they were troubled times," she said.
"It's in English and it's very easy to read so it's going to be of interest to the general public as well as scholars," she added.
The manuscript is one of Wallington's seven surviving notebooks. The woodturner wrote 50 journals about religion, the civil war and witchcraft trials during the course of his life.
A team at the University of Manchester's John Rylands Center for Heritage Imaging and Collection Care spent two weeks photographing the notebook kept at Tatton Hall in Cheshire so they could make it available online.
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