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07/30/10 1:43 PM

#327652 RE: Hymanroth #327650

this is a moot subject .. because of the chapter 11 ..
please move on ...

without the chapter 11 the company is responsible for the legal written agreements between each other ( how the agreements are spelled out and agreed too by each other ).. I don't need to check with anyone

as far as the contracts with the sports venues and teams go, i suggest you call the judge and ask him about that as well. ask the trustee. ask the teams lawyers. ask a first year law student. prepaid expenses are not subject to collection under the bankruptcy laws. there must be proven damages. there must be a product exchanged. there must be an economic loss.
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puppydotcom

07/30/10 1:46 PM

#327653 RE: Hymanroth #327650

and for all who want to know, a DIP financier does not necessary believe one way or the other about the future of the company. it is a business transaction with payment guaranteed by the bankruptcy laws of this country. even one of the bashers here could make money legitimately by offering to finance the ongoing business of this company or the demise and self destruction. either way, you will get paid and receive a profit for doing so.

no one is disputing that .. where is the plan>? .. you yourself stated non disclosed ( secret ) plans .. written .. not verbal

all I see is your opinion and court room share holder chatter

facts only please
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puppydotcom

07/30/10 1:49 PM

#327654 RE: Hymanroth #327650

Hey, if the sporting teams and venues that got the bad checks were so sure of their positions, why havent they filed their claims yet? only one has to my knowledge.. and the bad checks? where are the prosecutions or criminal complaints you were all so sure of?

do we have the complete list of creditors or just the top 20?

the DOJ at this time has not filed on spng or the insiders for bad checks .. does not mean they will not add to the charges .. again you jump to wild conclusion about the facts and the time lines of the SEC and the DOJ?IRS

both crooks were indited!!! earlier
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puppydotcom

07/30/10 1:57 PM

#327656 RE: Hymanroth #327650

It is easy to sit back and read your old posts to reassure yourselves of your precient knowledge but so far the company still exists, still ships. nobody is in jail. the sec has not stopped trading as they do in fact have the power to do but, as pointed out in court yesterday, they havent.

put down your prompting pages and talk to a securities atty or bankruptcy counsel. attend a hearing. stop writing what you know nothing about. good or bad, i took the time and expense to do so, and, given the opportunity i would offer dip financing. it is secured. it is very profitable. you not only get interest, which is worth nothing today, but you can also get fees and, i am not saying it will, the company succeds to emerge from bankruptcy, you can also negotiate for shares. would rather take a chance on GM but who knws.


funny you offer up only opinions and one sided at that .. zero facts and unfounded secret doc's .. clearly you're missing the point of law .. these deals go on for years .. the courts allows due process .. for both sides .. and no one in in jail because they're both on bail and the case has yet to go to court - the defendants have asked for extensions and the courts have granted them for due process and pleadings .. plus, the feds are waiting for the 2 insiders and their gang to hang themselves and rat each other out .. and that seems to be happening now with the opinion letter writing lawyers ..

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OldTymer

07/30/10 2:16 PM

#327663 RE: Hymanroth #327650

Hymanroth, I'm curious about something...

Who guarantees the entity who provides the DIP financing? What if the company takes the DIP financing, tries to make a go of it but simply can't and has to close down? SPNG doesn't have a lot of assets. So if they don't have the money to pay back the DIP financing, how does the person who provided the financing make a profit? TIA.
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puppydotcom

07/30/10 9:09 PM

#327786 RE: Hymanroth #327650

i will attempt to address every recent post that chose to dismiss what i know and say.


uh er, No I don't think you will ..
did you and dough and soapy have a nice laugh at the share holders expense after the hearing?
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Shaniqua

07/30/10 11:56 PM

#327797 RE: Hymanroth #327650

"Hey, if the sporting teams and venues that got the bad checks were so sure of their positions, why havent they filed their claims yet? only one has to my knowledge.. and the bad checks? where are the prosecutions or criminal complaints you were all so sure of?"

Please, are you for real? Why waste the time and money to sue a fraudulent company over their criminal and illegal actions after it has utterly collapsed and imploded into bankruptcy? Who would file a claim against an insolvent fraudulent firm under investigation by FEDERAL AGENCIES such as the SEC, FBI,& the DOJ. These legitamate organizations realize that you can't squeeze blood from a turnip and have for the time being chosen not to waste their legitamate money in pursuing bankrupt SPNG. They are just letting this fraud work its way through the justice system which doesn't appear to be slowing down.

I'm amazed at what these people on these forums (and apparantley with no shame in court) will say to continue:

A) promoting this fraud

B) defending the criminals who created this fraud

C) do whatever possible to through a wrench into the legal process in an effort to be able to unload their worthless shares onto other victims reading this stuff (like the postings from dpilon urging everyone to harass the fine Judges, Attorneys, SEC officials, and whoever else has come into contact with SPNG simply because they're doing their jobs to shut down this fraud and prosecute those who chose to simply break laws at will in the name of greed)

SPNG is officially bankrupt. The shares are not trading and will never trade again in US markets. To even suggest "this is awesome everyone...no claims being filed...what does that prove about their stance against these debts...this is proof of what the bashers are doing to our beloved company...!" is delusional and flies against all the REPUTABLE governmental agencies which are putting an end to this joke.

One last quick note, for an unofficial committee of shareholders to allegedly offer some secret DIP financing if the Trustee is removed and replaced only goes to show how ignorant and out of touch with reality these people are. In the end, this just goes to prove reason 'C' above.