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Xenophon

07/30/10 2:28 PM

#327668 RE: OldTymer #327663

They don't. For non-viable business models the DIP financers typically lose money and often lose it ALL.

However it is a common scheme in pennystock land to find those suckers who you've already shafted on the main stock fraud and go back to them and harvest mor emoney from them - either in the form of telling them that they will be buying a good deal via preferred notes allegedly paying interest and often convertible for shares, private placement shares at discounts and often with warrants, and/or notes payable with high yields and upsides (warrants or conversion features).

Pennystock scammers know that the best source for more money is the sucker they've already drained, as a key feature of human behavior is chasing losses - the bigger your loss the more desperate you are to recover it by betting more.

The insiders typically cook up the story that the suckers are really getting in on an "inside deal" that will wind up with them owning this great asset - which in pennyland is typically the same worthless asset they lost money on investing in the first place.

It never fails - I've seen the same pattern in many pennystocks. LOCH/CEXI drained tens of millions from suckers drained in LOCH when it was spun off as CDEx (CEXI) and the LOCH losers were offered great "insider type deals" as private placements - this went on for 8 years - the company is still worthless because the underlying business was not viable - but the insiders got 8 more years of salary, pennystock trading, built-in hypesters (the PPers acting as promoters and ginning up OTC market buyers for insiders selling their stock), and as I said, tens of millions of dollars from the very same folks they scammed in the original non-viable business (LOCH).

This is a classic pennystock scam tactic.




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puppydotcom

07/30/10 2:35 PM

#327672 RE: OldTymer #327663

OT, this is one of the best break downs of chapter 11

including explaining the DIP process

http://www.nacmoregon.org/files/8.11_Chapter_11_-_Obtaining_DIP_Financing__Using_Cash_Collateral.pdf
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puppydotcom

07/30/10 2:39 PM

#327676 RE: OldTymer #327663

about as cloe to fully secured as you can get with dip funding

is the super-priority claim, which supersedes any claims that existed "pre-petition" or prior to the bankruptcy filing. That means in the event of a sale or liquidation, save for certain legal and court expenses and other secured claims, no one else gets paid until the DIP tender is paid in full. It also means if the company remains viable, it cannot exit the bankruptcy process until the DIP is completely paid.