I don't think Fred is an idiot nor does he warrant the use of profanity in the fashion you've chosen.
Is Fred stubborn? yes Does he say some things that make me go "huh?" yes Do I agree with him about the OBL statement you keep citing? NO! But I also don't believe his "style" is appropriate to performing the duties of a message board admin.
On the issue of Bob's admin ability let me say this. The recent "survey" debacle is a good example of why Bob shouldn't admin. (Note: Bob already recognizes this and that is why Matt is admin...good for Bob). Bob is a good Geek (term used in it's positive sense). Because he is a good geek he is prone to being a bad admin. The two skills are mutually exclusive. Just because your experience with him worked in your favor does not mean everyones experience was what it should be. to Bob's credit, he recognized this and chose to have Matt handle the admin duties, while he handled his forte`...programming.
As for Joe... Joe is Joe. He is certainly a lot better than he used to be! <g>
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