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PaperProphet

06/23/10 5:45 PM

#51919 RE: MorningLightMountain #51914

Re:<" still do not understand why the "validation" did not contain the plastic identifying codes of the feedstock used (???) how hard would that be????">

I know. It isn't hard to be complete but Mr. Bordynuik seems to have a problem there. Just being an oversight doesn't pass the smell test.

Mr. Bordynuik's entire value proposition is held together by his claims that he can produce a crude-oil-equivalent for less than $10 per barrel that refineries will buy for crude. You would think at least a little care would go into communicating that value proposition. He bothered to pay for the testing but somehow overlooked that the type of plastic that went in would be important for someone doing actual DD?

JBII's entire story is ridiculous for anyone who takes the time to think about what is going on. I'm sure those numbers in the results sounded good to inexperienced investors. But as both you and I can see, they are fairly meaningless.

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BRIG_88

06/23/10 5:48 PM

#51920 RE: MorningLightMountain #51914

Gee i don't know....because JBII sin't going to reveal anything about their P2O process in any way shape or form....they are going to produce fuel and you can go shout trying to figure out how they did it....
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OverDraught

06/23/10 6:07 PM

#51926 RE: MorningLightMountain #51914

While were are on the subject of feedstock, we also need to consider the effect that varying the feedstock will have on the combustible gas that is produced by the process.

JB has stated that once a process run has been started up, the gas product will be used to fuel the ongoing process. It is the product of the combustion of this gas that is subject to the stack testing being done pursuant to obtaining the air permit.

Since these gasses are the result of an industrial process, i.e. not simply the result of the combustion of a single known fuel such as natural gas, it is reasonable to suspect that their composition may vary depending on the different feedstocks used in the process.

Here in North Carolina the process data are essential to getting the permit, and the permit may restrict the process to the parameters used in the testing. Is the same is true in NY?

So, I need to know what happens to the results of the stack tests when content of the feedstock is not tightly controlled, and what effect will this variability have on the resulting permit. Any NY permitting experts here?