The more things seem the same...
And then there's the internet. Without which, a good %, maybe 85, or 90, wouldn't be in this, or know about it. Still the universality and democratization of information has already, and will continue to force changes. Without the net I doubt Visteon would have been in BK this long, had as many people fighting, or given anything, even if its just 1.98%, to C/S.