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OldAIMGuy

11/29/04 12:57 AM

#14576 RE: DonCarlson #14574

Hi Don, Interesting idea. Since it is going to take a long time to play out, make sure that the annual charges for the fund's ownership aren't too high.

Best regards, Tom
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11/29/04 3:38 PM

#14587 RE: DonCarlson #14574

Hi Don,

It looks like an expensive hedge to me. Actually, one of the few contrarian plays I see today, is bonds. I can't stand the risk of a 30 year treasury bond yielding less than 5%, with the expectation that interest rates (overnight) will be raised soon. Note that bonds have not fallen from recent rate hikes. I'm actually thinking of investing in EAD on any correction as a purely contrarian play. My thinking is that much of the public has already gotten out of EAD and bond investments. Even if bond rates were to rise, bond values might not fall so much that the dividend yield would still give you a modest profit.

The reason I say it's an expensive hedge is the size of the fund expenses, the premium costs of the underlying futures and options contracts, and the opportunity costs of parking your money in the fund.

EAD actually sells for a very small premium, so it's not really a contrarian play. But if prices do fall, and it enters a historically low discount, I'll probably add it to my portfolio.



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rscottie

11/29/04 11:20 PM

#14595 RE: DonCarlson #14574

Don, I have long considered that interest rates could only go up. To that end I started a LD-AIM type program in Jan 04 in RRPSX.
I pretended a $20,000 account. 1% Buy Safe 3% Sell Safe $1000 min
Initial purchase 1/5/04 420.7 sh at 23.77
purchase 3/10/04 46.9 sh at 21.30
purchase 9/28/04 47.9 sh at 20.87 (I think I cheated some but did buy the $1000 min exchange which Profunds requires)

Currently it is showing a price of 21.29 which gives me a theoretical buy of $273 which of course is below the minimum.

Just to be complete, I also have a US Bond Trading System which has performed fairly well, but requires more margin than I am willing to put up. Using that system one should be currently short bonds and 10-yr notes. I am implementing this in the RRPSX fund.

RRPSX is the managed account version of RRPIX. I once had managed accounts. That guy went out of business but they let me exchange the same old funds.

Hope this helps.
Scott
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Rick Storm

12/15/04 9:41 PM

#14723 RE: DonCarlson #14574

Don, did you ever buy RRPIX? thanks