that's fine with me fung, and like junkmaster said, i think nearly all that have invested in CMKX know that it is an all or nothing shot, i don't expect to see my money sit in CMKX until I retire...it will either dissapear or multiply substantially. I know you think I'm stupid because I don't go ahead and sell at .0001 and minimize my losses, but for me this is completely fun money, i am only 27 and if i lose a couple thousand here and there it isn't going to hurt me down the road. if i was stupid enough to count on CMKX as a retirement fund then by all means i would accept being called stupid even by the likes of you.