Replies to post #13873 on Intel Corp (INTC)

[wbmw]

Joe, Re: By the time Mentocito is released at 90nm, Intel will be readying 65nm dual Yonah.

And by the time Intel can qualify a 65nm dual Yonah for high end server related tasks, and add the appropriate CPU level RAS, there will probably be a 65nm Montvale.

The point is that your comparison is apples to oranges. If the market was ready for a TTM IPF part without any server related RAS, Intel could deliver such a product much faster.

You have to realize that we are comparing two different worlds. You can't say that Dothan would be a better server design because it does better in SPECint, or because it will reach 65nm before IPF. The reasons behind those achievements is exactly what prevents it from being a successful design in high end servers.

[chipguy]

Mentocito at 100W TDP: let's wait a year or whatever how that will be qualified. I have a feeling there will be a "catch".

There's a catch all right. It's called Foxton technology and
based on early technical disclosure from HP it is a comp-
letely new approach to manage design, manufacturing,
and power budget margining for CMOS chips in a single
unified and comprehensive fashion. IMO it could easily
become a major competitive advantage for Intel in high
end MPUs and eventually desktop chips too.