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Maximalexander

11/19/09 4:51 PM

#30899 RE: davidal66 #30898

They took the advertisement for paid volunteers off the BritishSnoring.com site for whatever reason.

There were only two of 24 messages in the site forum related to the request for volunteer for the Quintiles study that seemed relevant. 1) someone wrote in that their son had seen similar ads for volunteers at local universities and 2) the following message that shows at least one person was going through the study in October:

Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnoea Drug Trial - Paid Volunteers NeededPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:22 pm

Daffydd is still there having treatment

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So at least one new patient was undergoing the study in late October.


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gfp927z

11/19/09 5:25 PM

#30900 RE: davidal66 #30898

Davidal, Concerning the SA trial, the goal was for full data on 20 patients, but if they have even 8 or 10 completers, that should at least give some idea of POC, or HOC. I figure we now have a decent chance to be somewhere in that 8-10 range of completers. Here's a summary of what we know -


1) June 5 SHM presentation -- Approx 2 completers (a 'couple', as per Stoll's comment). 10 patients had undergone at least at least one PSG (PSG 1 and PSG 2 are baseline readings, PSG 3 is with CX-1739). Stoll indicated (offhandedly) that 'a couple' had completed all 3 PSGs.


2) Sept 10 R+R presentation -- Approx 5 or 6 completers (my guestimate). At that time over 180 patients had been enrolled, but lots of screening failures. 23 patients had undergone 'at least one PSG' (compared to 10 in June, so an additional 13 between June and Sept), with approx half (11-12) of those 23 having gotten to the 2nd PSG. Varney didn't say how many of the 11-12 had completed through PSG 3, but let's say 5 or 6.


3) Late November -- Approx 8-10 completers (a guestimate). We don't have any new figures to go by, but they did liberalize the enrollment rules in late Summer, so let's say they've gotten an additional 3 or 4 completers in the two months since September. That would bring the total to 8-10 completers by late November.


Anyway, this is just a ballpak estimate, but it would seem logical to do an interim analysis on whatever SA data they have, and then issue a press release bordering on an all out hype job if there is any sign of efficacy. Varney should try to get on the Cramer show if possible, as Immunogen's CEO did a couple weeks ago. Desperate times require desperate measures, and SA efficacy is the type of thing that could catch the general public's imagination. Nothing to lose at this point, go for it.































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RBlatch45

11/19/09 5:33 PM

#30901 RE: davidal66 #30898




No reason to not release it, except fear that it would make a bad situation worse.

GFP, I doubt they have 10 plus completers. Just my opinion.



Cordially,
RBlatch
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haysaw

11/20/09 9:14 PM

#30916 RE: davidal66 #30898

Also, since we are closing in on some sort of disposition of the company, anybody who wants to assess value to Cortex must have this data endpoint. Without revealing the apnea data set results, one cannot assess an accurate value. Put it another way, if you were oging to shell out 5 or 8 or 10 million to buy Cortex out on the cheap(or more)wouldn't you want to see the apnea results? Cortex, I don't think, can selectively release this information either.



That is a good point. This makes the most sense to me, insofar as mngmnt first suggested that the SA results (of any sort) would not impact a non-SA deal, and in 180 degree fashion, decided it could (shortly thereafter). Brain-dead would definitely apply here if something more profound wasn't going on. The question then is: Can Cor unblind the SA data to the prospective acquirer in the middle of talks, while leaving us in the dark? I think so, but maybe someone else knows for sure.

Here's to hoping mngmnt concedes and sells, thus restoring some dignity.

Sincerely,

a Cor long (hopefully, for only a short time longer-{smiling}). Btw-I will be the first person to stand up and applaud this final sacrifice, should this happen.

It's situations like this that bring certain people closer to their religion, right Ombow?