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10/16/04 7:55 AM

#2008 RE: Amaunet #2001

Now that is a job i would really love to have, working on a oil platform in the Arctic Ocean:)
From exploration to oil being pumped i say they can do this in 50 years.
Ran across i stat that was eye-popping; accounting for all russias known accessible reserves, that if they keep production at present level, they would be at exhaustion point in their reserves within less than 20 years.
And overlooking ALL known reserves world wide, the Middle East area still possesses 61% of world's oil reserves---1.2 trillion barrels.
I have heard people say things like well we can just go to places like Indonesia like they have like wow a lot of oil.
However their proven reserves are a drop in the bucket compared to the Middle East.
The oil men that have been scouring and scouring and scouring this planet for a new Great Reserve like in Saudii Arabia are becoming to feel it simply does not exist.
I would have thought the Anarctic would be the place since we know that before it drifted to bottom of this planet, it was once a mass of tropic foliage and plants yada yada.
But i guess it is a little hard to get to:)


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Amaunet

11/28/04 11:18 AM

#2519 RE: Amaunet #2001

I have to ask again is Bush purposely polluting the atmosphere to thaw the Arctic and supposedly have easier access to Arctic reserves and new shipping routes? Does this also have something to do with his containing or surrounding Russia and China by establishing a presence from the north?

By refusing to take action Bush will accelerate an unprecedented destructive force, global warming, Artic thaw, ecological disaster, imperilment of traditional native communities and many species.

He will gain longer growing seasons, new shipping routes in ice-free waters, oil and gas reserves and the ability to establish a base behind Russia and China.

The longer Bush drags his feet the more curious this becomes as the severity of the problem increases including the peril that the traditional native communities will suffer from his inaction.

This seems insane, what is being lost does not make up for that which is gained.

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The United States which is one of the seven sovereign countries that border the Arctic is arguably the world's biggest air polluter thought to cause global warming and thus the Artic thaw. As one of the seven the United States may have a claim to the Arctic and its vast reserves.
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The report said the changes could imperil traditional native communities and many species while offering some benefits such as longer growing seasons and new shipping routes in ice-free waters.

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U.S. at odds with other countries over Arctic
Northern nations fail to reach agreement to reduce emissions

Thursday, November 25, 2004


By ANDREW C. REVKIN
THE NEW YORK TIMES

The United States and the seven other countries with Arctic territory expressed concern yesterday about profound changes in the Arctic climate and said they would consider new scientific findings concluding that heat-trapping emissions were the main cause.

But in a move that disappointed environmental and Arctic indigenous groups, they did not agree on a common strategy for curbing emissions.

The joint statement on Arctic climate, emerging after several days of negotiations in Reykjavik, Iceland, reflected the continuing opposition by the Bush administration to anything other than voluntary measures to slow the growth in such gases.

This put the United States at odds with the other Arctic countries, all of which are among the 128 nations that have ratified the Kyoto Protocol, a treaty poised to take effect in February that requires participating industrialized countries collectively to cut emissions below levels measured in 1990.

The other Arctic countries are Russia, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Sweden and Finland.

The talks took place at a meeting of the Arctic Council, which was created in 1996 to foster cooperation among the world's northernmost countries and six Arctic indigenous groups that participate in sessions but do not vote.

The statement followed the release Nov. 9 of "Impacts of a Warming Arctic," a summary of a four-year assessment of high-latitude climate shifts done by 300 scientists at the request of the council. The study documented an array of shifts in climate, ecosystems and ice conditions and concluded that "human influences, resulting primarily from increased emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, have now become the dominant factor."

The report said the changes could imperil traditional native communities and many species while offering some benefits such as longer growing seasons and new shipping routes in ice-free waters.

In a speech to other senior officials at the meeting, the U.S. undersecretary of state for global affairs, Paula Dobriansky, said that once the full science report is released early next year, "the United States will take the findings into account as it continues to review the science on climate change."

Environmentalists and representatives of Arctic traditional cultures said that the science was clear enough to justify stronger actions to stem gases linked to the changes.

"In terms of what the planet needs, this is far from enough," Sheila Watt-Cloutier, chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, told Reuters. The group says it represents 155,000 Arctic residents in Canada, Alaska, Greenland and Russia.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/201055_arctic25.html