Also post by Loop # 259286 where ref is made to validity by Judge Lukern. Seems to be about the Nokia case
"whose speculating? The staff attorney recommended "no violation" and that is all we know. Nothing was mentioned about "no infringement" in the 8k. In the Samsung case, the Staff attorney was buying the estoppel defense. Judge Luckern stated this investigation is now focused on validity in open court. Thus, apparently the products are using the patents, but the validity of the patent claims are in question. What will be, will be. What are the odds of the 4 patents involved being totally described in the Lucas paper or that everything contained in the 4 patents is "obvious"? If our patent system is any good, they should be very low. After all, the Lucas paper was declared in later patent applications that have been issued by the USPO which indicates that the examiner was not impressed with same."