I like the way you worded that. Makes it look like you asked relevant question when IR could dodge the true answer by saying NO. Perhaps technically speaking he's right since they aren't currently owned by PBLS management since the PBLS management has probably dissolved as a result of bankruptcy and legal maneuverings. However, it is a fact that PBLS bought out the original owners by trading them stock for their ownership stake and became the majority stockholder. It is a fact that PLBS was owned/run by Alonzo, Alonzo and Blackburn. It's also a fact that shortly after that PBLS declared bankruptcy and TK (TRi Koon) holdings took over as the majority stockholder. It has been proved as well that Tri Koon Holdings is owned/run by Alonzo, Alonzo and Blackburn. It is factual that Tri Koon removed Hallin, Hyatt and Dunham from the board and appointed Newton as CEO. So regardless of how it is disguised or painted by the IR, these are the facts and it can be construed that the "former" PBLS management is TK Holdings who in fact run TECO.