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08/28/09 4:27 PM

#27734 RE: roguedolphin #27733

Above all, keep this in mind people...

Socialism and communism has never been a movement of
the people, or the working class. It's always been the tool
of international bankers and the ruling oligarchs who funded
Marx and Engels in the first place.
http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=25899282


To: Gib Bogle who wrote (18962) 8/28/2009 10:37:19 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack 20 Recommendations Read Replies (1) of 19003

Gib, re: No more talking points - be specific, or be vanquished.


Gib, I let you run on and on with your leftist talking
points and personal attacks for a couple of days now.

And I gave you every chance to debunk, or refute the facts
of the message and to stop the personal attacks on the messengers....ie:

http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=25893773

"And instead of using ridicule and vacuous rhetoric against
Glenn Beck, please refute anything he has said in any
of his videos about Barack Obama, or his commissariat of
communist czars as untrue.

Be specific, or be vanquished..."

********************

Gib, I asked you and others to give us the facts on anything
that I've said about Obama that is factually incorrect and
you haven't done that.

And I asked you and others to debunk, or disprove anything
that Glenn Beck has wrong in any of the exposes he's
done on Obama and his new Marxist-Leninist commissariat,
and you haven't done that.

When we expose racism, you call us racists.

When we identify self-avowed Marxist-Leninist, lifelong
communist anarchists for what they have continually
identified themselves as, and have never denied...
you pull out your "Rules For Radicals" playbook and
attack the messenger, not the message, or the facts.

You've tried to link us to Lyndon LaRouche, or Rush Limbaugh,
two people who I can never recall being quoted here, or even
talked about.

This isn't a "nest" of anti-Obama Republicans, this is a
fortress of pro-America, libertarian Ron Paul supporters.

You didn't come here with any intention of listening, or
engaging in intelligent discussion. You came here to vent,
and spew talking points.

Gib, I'll give you a couple more hours to refute anything
here that isn't true, if you can't do that, then you will
be banned. I've given you three days to put up, or shut up.

Oh, and don't even think about bitching and moaning about
being shut off without any ability to appeal my decision,
because that's exactly what Obama's socialized medicine is
going to do... you will have no appeal, and no voice, just
a anonymous technocrat deciding whether you live, or whether
you die. Thumbs up, or thumbs down... just like Rome's Colosseum.

Reasonable questions for an unreasonable time:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8157694&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/hijacking/index.html

Why the radicals on the left want to shut you up:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8157694&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/hijacking/index.html

Expose on radical communist Van Jones - The Green Jobs Czar:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8661920&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/

Democratic Strategist Pat Caddell shocked by Obama's 60's Radicals:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8661920&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/

The Road To Socialism:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8057030&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/hijacking/index.html

Expose of FCC "Diversity Officer" Mark Lloyd on how he wants
to bring a "Hugo Chavez" style revolution" to American Free Speech

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8711717&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/

Is Obama merely a charming liar? Air America exposes their
own, as Obama cuts a secret deal with Big Pharma:

"We've just been Cheney'd by Barack Obama"

Obama's $3.6 trillion dollar gift to big Pharma, listen to this
audio clip as Obama's own supporters ask: "what if all those people
at the Town Hall are right after all?"

From Air America Radio:

http://blip.tv/play/hJNRgZm2QQI%2Em4v

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29610/?ck=1

************

Gib,

-- Was Air America wrong about Obama stabbing his base
in the back and cutting an George Bush-like back room
deal with corporatist Big Pharma? Are the liberals finally
waking up to the fact that Obama is just a front man for
the same globalist, military-industrial, Big Pharma, banking
oligarchy that George Bush was, and that only the mechanism
and the paradigm has changed?

-- Is Van Jones not an anarchist, black nationalist and self-
avowed communist? Did he not serve time in prison for
his crimes in the LA riots, and why did Obama prohibit the
FBI from "vetting" him?

-- Was Bill Ayres not a terrorist bomber and a lifelong
Marxist-Leninist? Did Barack Obama not launch his Illinois
Senate candidacy from the home of his close friend Bill Ayres?

-- Was Apollo board member Jeff Jones not the founder of
the anarchist SDS/Students for a Democratic Society, and
an acknowledged life-long Marxist-Leninist?

-- Is Mark Lloyd not on record for wanting to shut down
Free Speech, Talk Radio, and to bring a "Hugo Chavez style
revolution" to America? Is his not a self-avowed anti-capitalist,
funded by George Soros through CAP?

-- Has Obama not been tied his entire lifetime to a
Marxist-Leninist philosophy and been involved with
a non-stop series of Marxist-Leninist, socialist groups
like the New Party, and socialist-globalist funded foundations
and activist organizations like TIDE, STORM, ACORN, CAP and
Apollo?

-- Is the funding for CAP, Apollo, TIDE, STORM, ACORN et al
not coming from Rothschild frontman George Soros, and the
Rockefeller oligarch international bankster-gangster globalist-
socialist NGO, Think Tank, and Foundation shills?

Gib, It's clear you've read little here, and understand nothing
about how I, or the vast majority of the threadsters here
feel about who "they" are (which has been clearly spelled out
a hundred times), let alone how we feel about the Republicans,
and the use of the left-right paradigm to divert, divide, and
distract.

Obama is a puppet, as are these lackey Czars.

This isn't Obama's agenda, he's merely the pitchman.

Follow the money...

TIDE, STORM, ACORN, CAP, Apollo... they all go back to
the globalist-socialist, monopoly men like Rockefeller,
Soros, and the Rothschild banking oligarchs.

Gary Allen broke the stereotypical myth of socialism with
"None Dare Call It Conspiracy" over four decades ago.

Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement
of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.

This is a book everyone must read. And you can read it free online here:



http://www.scribd.com/doc/2297676/conspiracy-Gary-Allen-None-Dare-Call-it-Conspiracy-english-rarereactor

Above all, keep this in mind people...

Socialism and communism has never been a movement of
the people, or the working class. It's always been the tool
of international bankers and the ruling oligarchs who funded
Marx and Engels in the first place.

SOTB

PS: And let's not forget about Obama's promise to create a
"Domestic Security Force" as large and as well funded as
the US military...

Obama in his own words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

The questions you need to be asking about Obama's Army.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8711717&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/

Did we not learn from Germany, the Soviet Union, and even from
Saddam Hussein's Iraq, what happens when political leaders
create "domestic security" forces loyal to themselves and not
to the military, or their country?

Is history repeating itself?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08BAfKCfu74
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lentinman

08/28/09 5:27 PM

#27737 RE: roguedolphin #27733

Rogue: The answer:

Considering you have never one time ever answered a single NJ "question" of mine, why should I waste time on answering yours? Nevertheless, unlike you (who are incapable of answering my big picture questions - like "What happened to the plane or how come the Japanese Mafia decided to quit steering hurricanes our way?") I will answer this one.

"Lentinman...I'd like your opinion of the new US Science and Technology Czar William Holdren??? Do you think it's just a fluke they put this eugenics maniac in this position???"

1) Your credibility is 100% shot when you don't even know the difference between John P. Holdren and "William Holdren" (presumably the actor who slept at a Holiday Inn Express the night before he played a czar on TV).

2) Holden never advocated killing anyone - unless you consider abortion "killing". Since the majority of people believe abortion is NOT killing, that puts him in the ... (drum roll) majority.

3) Holden advocated sterilization, restrictions on the number of children, required birth control, etc. - clearly the anti good Catholic. But, he never advocated killing a single person. And, now, out of the clear blue sky (after 32 years), he's coined as your "Let's-kill-off-90%-of-the-world's-population-by-this-fall-CZAR". He may well prefer 90% less population. Who wouldn't? But, he's in favor of seeing it happen over generations by virtue of population control laws.

4) And, yes, he's a globalist. And, yes, he's a redistributionist. Those are light years from being the biggest mass murderer (Hitler) times 914!

You're a kook - and anyone with any common sense or any objectivity whatsoever knows it. I only debate with you just to make fun of you. I figure since I only have a couple months to live along with everyone else I know, I might as well enjoy them.

Len