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Bernie Goldberg

07/07/02 7:39 AM

#3743 RE: Tim Reese #3742

Hi Tim,
I think what you are looking for can be found at MSN Money Central. http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/home.asp

All you have to do is request a quote on the stock you are looking at.
Click on charts.
Determine the parameters you desire for the chart.
Period, display data (daily, weekly, monthly etc.)
That will give you a chart. Under the display tab you can choose whether or not to display splits or dividends.
Next go to the file tab and select export data.
This will give you an Excel spreadsheet in *.csv format that should be able to be read by any spreadsheet program.
If choose all date your chart could go back as long as 30 years or more.
Hope this helps.
Bernie

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Conrad

07/07/02 8:03 AM

#3744 RE: Tim Reese #3742

Hello Tim, Anybody,

I have copied the article you referred to but have not yet digested it fully.

In March this year I organised a test(This AIM Board) on the various AIM Structures that people had been using. With the Vortex AIM I can invoke several different modes and use different PC update algorithms. These(informal) test show a distinct sensitivity to optimisation(tweaking) of the parameters. We used an approximately random stock price wave pattern.

The results showed that there were significant differences between the models, indicating that for the given price structure some models were much better than others. All of them appeard to score higher than the basic Lichello AIM, inficating that various alternatives were indeed superior than the bare bones AIM By The Book. So I am somewhat puzzled that you say the testing you referred to gave disappinting results.

Look at messages # 1696, 1704 and 1754

If you are interested in receiving the Summary of these tests then give me you e-mail address and I will send it to you(if I can find it). Also, I have various Excel spread sheet of the Vortex AIM variants.

In regards to available stock data for testing AIMs I am sure there is. Various members have used such data but I do not have the sources. Someone will probably refer you to them.

The next stage of testing is what we are discussing now, but it should be done formally by experienced testers. In my opinion the objective is not so much testing the effectivities of different AIM Structures but the idea of automatic optimisation(various ideas can be incorporated into this goal. As I see it we should define exactly what it is we want to optimise and how we are going to do it, if we are going to do it. At the moment
I think we are still beating the bushes the get interesting people to sit up and notice and
participate. I hope you will stick around in this effort.

I am formulating my thoughts on this effort and in a few days I will make the ideas I have available in a structured format


Conrad
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OldAIMGuy

07/08/02 8:09 AM

#3761 RE: Tim Reese #3742

Hi Tim, I'm curious about the length of the test you did on Claire Stores. Usually the longer the better as far as AIM goes when compared to B&H. AIM takes a while to get up a head of steam. Market cycles are really what it needs, regardless of the time frame.

More cash = less risk, so from that angle it works.
http://www.aim-users.com/diction.htm#q18
This definition may help you a bit.

Best regards, Tom