Replies to post #35394 on Zenergy International Inc. (ZENG)

[Mr Wizard a1a]

Mr. Luiten and Mr. Mannsfeld were likely friends as both served on the Mobile Alabama Chamber of Commerce for years. When Mr. Mannsfeld discovered the theft of his idea in 2004 by INEOS Phenol, he must have contacted Mr. Luiten about it. A lawsuit was finally filed in 2006. Within a few days of the filing of the lawsuit Mr. Luiten formed Zenergy International, Inc as a Nevada corporation and contracted with Blue Diamond (BLDV) while records indicate he was still employed with INEOS. Those are facts.

Did Mr. Luiten quit because he knew his company was wrong in opposing Mr. Mannsfeld? OR, was Mr. Luiten asked to leave because of some involvement he had in the theft? Timing between suit and termination, which ended a promising 13-year career with INEOS, makes it very likely it was one of the two. Either way, contacts and influence with INEOS would have been lost and not now available to Zenergy. This would seem to counter speculation about deep pockets and contacts from INEOS available to Zenergy. It is also unexplained how Mr. Luiten could have started Zenergy and contracted with Blue Diamond while still working for INEOS.

SUPPORT NOTES:

Sven Peter Mannsfeld of Mobile owns a chemical plant south of Mobile in the Theodore Industrial Park, next to the plant that's now called Evonik-Degussa.

July 14, 2006, civil lawsuit filed against INEOS Phenol. Among other things, The suit claimed that INEOS tried to falsely patent the idea using false inventors. This ploy must have been clear to INEOS management early in the suit.

July 31, 2006 Zenergy International formed in Nevada

Aug 3, 2006, A PR from Blue Diamond Ventures BLDV is released.

HOUSTON, TX -- (MARKET WIRE) -- August 03, 2006 -- Blue Diamond Ventures, Inc., (PINKSHEETS: BLDV) announced today that Robert Luiten, a former chief operating officer and vice president of a division of one of the largest ethanol producing companies in Europe and the world's third largest chemical company, with sales of about EUR 33 billion, has joined the company in a consulting capacity and will assist in developing the company's biofuels trading division.
"I very much look forward to providing my expertise and serving as a biofuels trading partner with Blue Diamond Ventures, Inc., until the company begins its own production," said Luiten, now CEO of Zenergy International, and formerly chief operating officer of INEOS Phenol, a division of INEOS Americas LLC.

Mobile County Circuit Judge Robert Smith last week upheld the verdict, which came in October against Ineos Americas LLC and Germany-based Ineos Phenol. The $192 million was awarded for compensatory damages that extend into the future.

Luiten employment and duties:

INEOS Phenol - [Cached Version]
Published on: 8/25/2005 Last Visited: 8/25/2005
Robert Luiten, Chief Operating Officer, Mobile site

Robert is overseeing the operational team, based in Mobile, Al, that supports the Marketing and Sales efforts from Alberto Spera in the Americas and Far East.

INEOS Phenol - [Cached Version]
Published on: 11/10/2006 Last Visited: 11/10/2006
Robert Luiten, Chief Operating Officer, Mobile

oversees the operational team based in Mobile, Alabama, which supports the Sales & Marketing efforts in the Americas and Far East.After obtaining his Master Degree in Chemistry, he started his career in the phenol industry at our Antwerp location.He was instrumental in the initial building and operating of the Mobile Production Unit where his primary role was to ensure the knowledge transfer was complete.

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[Mr Wizard a1a]

Durkk, please be more careful with research quotes.

You post: But it takes balls and money to get to be the third largest company in the world.

Your post implies INEOS, where Zenergy CEO Luiten once worked, is the third largest company in the world. Sloppy reference – not even close.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2009/full_list/

Here's the list:

1 Royal Dutch Shell 458,361 26,277
2 Exxon Mobil 442,851 45,220
3 Wal-Mart Stores 405,607 13,400
4 BP 367,053 21,157
5 Chevron 263,159 23,931
6 Total 234,674 15,500
7 ConocoPhillips 230,764 -16,998
8 ING Group 226,577 -1,067
9 Sinopec 207,814 1,961
10 Toyota Motor 204,352 -4,349
11 Japan Post Holdings 198,700 4,208
12 General Electric 183,207 17,410
13 China National Petroleum 181,123 10,271
14 Volkswagen 166,579 6,957
15 State Grid 164,136 664
16 Dexia Group 161,269 -4,868
17 ENI 159,348 12,917
18 General Motors 148,979 -30,860
19 Ford Motor 146,277 -14,672
20 Allianz 142,395 -3,577
21 HSBC Holdings 142,049 5,728
22 Gazprom 141,455 29,864
23 Daimler 140,328 1,973
24 BNP Paribas 136,096 4,422
25 Carrefour 129,134 1,862
26 E.ON 127,278 1,853
27 PDVSA 126,364 7,451
28 ArcelorMittal 124,936 9,399
29 AT&T 124,028 12,867
30 Siemens 123,595 8,595
31 Pemex 119,235 -10,056
32 Hewlett-Packard 118,364 8,329
33 Valero Energy 118,298 -1,131
34 Petrobras 118,257 18,879
35 Banco Santander 117,803 12,992
36 Statoil Hydro 116,211 7,664
37 Bank of America Corp. 113,106 4,008
38 Royal Bank of Scotland 113,087 -43,167
39 Citigroup 112,372 -27,684
40 Samsung Electronics 110,350 5,027
41 Berkshire Hathaway 107,786 4,994
42 McKesson 106,632 823
43 Société Générale 104,378 2,942
44 Nippon Telegraph & Telephone 103,684 5,362
45 International Business Machines 103,630 12,334
46 Crédit Agricole 103,582 1,499
47 Assicurazioni Generali 103,103 1,260
48 Nestlé 101,565 16,670
49 J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. 101,491 5,605
50 Metro 101,217 590
51 Honda Motor 99,652 1,364
52 Hitachi 99,544 -7,837
53 GDF Suez 99,419 7,109
54 Deutsche Post 98,708 -2,471
55 Verizon Communications 97,354 6,428
56 Tesco 94,300 3,751
57 Électricité de France 94,084 4,976
58 UniCredit Group 94,036 5,872
59 BASF 91,193 4,262
60 Cardinal Health 91,091 1,301
61 Deutsche Telekom 90,260 2,171
62 Enel 90,005 7,747
63 CVS Caremark 87,472 3,212
64 Fiat 86,914 2,360
65 Lukoil 86,340 9,144
66 Telefónica 84,815 11,112
67 Nissan Motor 83,982 -2,326
68 Procter & Gamble 83,503 12,075
69 LG 82,082 830
70 Deutsche Bank 81,360 -5,613
71 UnitedHealth Group 81,186 2,977
72 SK Holdings 80,810 259
73 AXA 80,257 1,351
74 ThyssenKrupp 80,210 3,295
75 Peugeot 79,560 -502
76 Repsol YPF 79,177 3,968
77 France Télécom 78,290 5,956
78 BMW 77,864 474
79 Panasonic 77,298 -3,772
80 Petronas 76,965 15,309
81 Sony 76,945 -985
82 Kroger 76,000 1,249
83 Barclays 75,136 8,035
84 U.S. Postal Service 74,932 -2,806
85 Nokia 74,224 5,837
86 Marathon Oil 73,504 3,528
87 Hyundai Motor 72,542 780
88 Costco Wholesale 72,483 1,283
89 Rwe 71,851 3,744
90 Home Depot 71,288 2,260
91 AmerisourceBergen 70,594 251
92 Industrial & Commercial Bank of China 70,568 15,948
93 Archer Daniels Midland 69,816 1,802
94 Vodafone 69,138 5,188
95 Munich Re Group 67,515 2,200
96 Nippon Life Insurance 66,621 1,514
97 Toshiba 66,239 -3,420
98 Robert Bosch 66,052 504
99 China Mobile Communications 65,015 11,442
100 Target 64,948 2,214