I have always wondered how "equal" the arms manufacturing partnership is between China and Russia. Can the Chinese manufacture the Sunburn or Onyx missiles without the Russians?
Egypt Infiltrated, very sad what is happening around the world.
Egypt is one of the countries on Perle’s list to control.
Perle said the United States should then turn its attention to longtime allies, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. – excerpt: Top Bush Adviser: 'Get Saddam Out Violently', NewsMax.com Wires, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2001
"They want to infiltrate Egypt and keep a tight lid on Nile tributaries, necessary for Egyptians to survive."
Since before the pyramids the River of God has protected the Egyptians. This is sadistic. No good will come from this.
Maybe I was just naive but I search for the America I thought I once knew and she is not there.
-Am
Sudanese Expert Warns Against Proselytization In Darfur
By Mustafa Abdel-Halim, IOL Staff
CAIRO, July 28 (IslamOnline.net) – Christian missionaries could flood Darfur under the guise of humanitarian relief in case of any foreign military intervention in the predominantly-Muslim region, a Sudanese expert warned Wednesday, July 28.
"Darfur has been the base of Islamic culture in Sudan for as many decades and is the only region in the country that has no Christians or churches," said Hassan Mekki, a member of the Sudanese Foreign Minister's advisory board.
Speaking in a live dialogue with IslamOnline.net's audience, he warned against a feared wave of proselytization that could lead to a situation similar to what happened in the south.
"Until 1919, there were no Christians in the south. Now, there are more than three million people embracing Christianity in the region due to active missionary work," Mekki said.
"Southern Sudan has 28 churches, including 20 ones financed by American churches and the Orthodox Church financed by British Anglican church."
The expert pointed an accusation finger at British occupation of Sudan, ended in 1956, for allowing missionaries into the country in large numbers in what he described as "a bid to upset the demographic balance in the Arab Islamic country".
A few years after independence, a civil war broke out pitting black Christians in the south against the Arab-Muslims of the north and has cost at least 1.5 million lives, as well as the displacement of millions of others.
Mekki said the situation after any military action in Darfur could bear a similarity to Iraq's.
The Daily Telegraph had reported that American missionaries, mainly evangelicals, have secretly rushed to Iraq after the US-British invasion of the Muslim country.
In public, the groups had put the emphasis on their delivery of food parcels and their medical work, but their internal fund-raising materials emphasize missionary work, said the British daily.
The goal was spreading some one million Arabic bibles along with Arabic religious videos and tracts throughout Iraq, after only 8,000 copies were circulated in their last missions, it added.
In 2000, press reports said a number of American missionary groups have established the "Institute for Islamic Studies" somewhere in Latin America to teach enough about Islam to invade Muslim countries and try to convert Muslims to Christianity.
Darfur, an area of 200,000 miles, is double the size of France and populated by six million people, all Muslims.
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Mekki also referred to heavy presence of western intelligence agents in Darfur, in what he called "bids to remap western Africa and tighten control of the neighboring Arab heavyweight".
"They want to infiltrate Egypt and keep a tight lid on Nile tributaries, necessary for Egyptians to survive."
Mekki said French intelligence agents are also joining the game, as "Paris seeks to maintain its interests in former western African colonies".
The expert noted that Darfur has large reserves of such riches as uranium and Dioxide.
"The region has a large oil reserves as well," he said.
Mekki pointed out that Darfur came under an international spot at recent months after the Iraq invasion, saying the region was visited by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and US Secretary of State Colin Powell as well as the foreign minister of France in one month.
Powell and Annan threatened Sudan with an unspecified UN Security Council action if it failed to crack down on Arab militias in Darfur.
US Congress also called humanitarian situation in Darfur a "genocide" and the European Union warned against backing sanctions on the African country.
However, Sudanese officials and experts have refuted the claims and warned of plots targeting the unity of the oil-exporting country.
Sudanese Foreign Minister Mustafa Osman Ismail fired back, warning: "Those voices which have drawn the world to the Iraq war not to take it to a new war which it will be difficult to disengage from".
He questioned the need for foreign troops in the western province of Darfur, saying his government was doing all it could to disarm Arab militias.
Both Bush and Kerry will probably push into the Sudan to try and pry the Chinese away from African oil. They will do this under the pretext of saving the Sudanese from genocide although the disaster in Sudan did not begin this year, and is not confined to the Darfur region which is now in the headlines. The recent deaths of 30,000 Sudanese are but a subchapter in a conflict that has been raging for more than two decades, and which according to modest estimates has taken the lives of more than 1.2 million people.
We never really gave a rat’s ass until the Chinese showed.
Bush will probably go for Iran, albeit that will be complicated, and Kerry with his assortment of Balkans veterans will more likely do a ‘regime change’ in the Balkans. Iran, the Balkans and the Sudan are part of what we can look forward to over and above a still festering Iraq and possibly other countries.
Bush is more likely than Kerry to get the United States into war with China. Not many of us will live through that.
IMO, -Am
Decision 2004: Iran or Sudan?
July 31, 2004
by Gordon Prather Well, now we know that no matter who wins in November, we’re going to stay in Iraq as long as it takes and do whatever it takes to achieve final victory – whatever "victory" means.
The election will, however, decide which country is next to have its "regime changed."
If Kerry is elected, it’ll be Sudan. If Bush is reelected, it’ll be Iran.
The goal of U.S. foreign policy has long been the substitution of U.S. sycophantic regimes for existing "criminal" regimes.
What makes a regime criminal?
Well, for the loony Left, it’s human rights abuse, ethnic cleansing and genocide. For the neo-crazies, it’s just thinking about acquiring nukes or the makings thereof and having missiles that can reach Israel.
Egged on by the loony Left, Clinton attempted to achieve regime change in Bosnia and Kosovo from 20,000 feet. He accused the existing Serbian regime of genocide and the neo-crazies went along, figuring that Clinton’s attacks on the Serbs might cause their Russian allies on the scene to start another World War in the Balkans.
Egged on by the neo-crazies, Clinton also attempted to achieve regime change in Iraq from 20,000 feet. He accused the United Nations inspectors of being incompetent or worse for failing to find the missiles and "weapons of mass destruction" U.S. "intelligence" said Saddam had. The loony Left went along with that fiction because they knew that Clinton’s real rationale for the bombing was Saddam’s "human rights" abuses.
Congress even went along, passing the Iraq Liberation Act, calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime.
"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
But when it came to actually effecting regime change, the neo-crazies and the loony Left discovered that the only rationale the American public would buy for invading Iraq was an imminent threat by Saddam to our national security. So Bush "determined" that Saddam already had or soon would have nukes to give to Islamic terrorists.
Congress went along with that "determination."
Now, Congress has already established the basis for Bush doing unto Iran what he did to Iraq
Concurrent Resolution S.81 "concurs with the conclusion reached in the U.S. Department of State's Annual Noncompliance Report that Iran is pursuing a program to develop nuclear weapons."
It calls for Iran to
Immediately and permanently cease all efforts to acquire sensitive nuclear fuel cycle capabilities, and in particular, all uranium enrichment activities, including related importing and manufacturing activities and the testing of related equipment; Comply with its international commitments and to rescind its decisions to: manufacture and construct centrifuges, produce feed material that could be used in those centrifuges, and construct a heavy water moderated reactor that could be used for plutonium production; Honor its stated commitments and legal obligations to: grant IAEA inspectors prompt, full and unrestricted access, to cooperate fully with the investigation of its nuclear activities, and demonstrate a new openness and honesty about all its nuclear programs. And, Congress has already established the basis for Kerry’s doing unto Sudan what Clinton did to Bosnia and Kosovo.
Concurrent resolution H.467:
declares that the atrocities unfolding in Darfur, Sudan, are genocide; reminds the international community, including the United States Government, of their international legal obligations, as affirmed in the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide; calls on the Bush Administration to lead an international effort to prevent genocide in Darfur, Sudan; urges the Bush Administration to seriously consider multilateral or even unilateral intervention to prevent genocide should the United Nations Security Council fail to act.
So, there you have it. No matter who’s elected we’re going to unilaterally effect regime change in at least one more Islamic country.
Why unilateral? Why can’t we get the UN Security Council to authorize our regime changes? Well, there’s those pesky Chinese.
You see, a Chinese company, Zhuhai Zhenrong Corporation, has just signed a long-term agreement with the current Iranian regime to buy $20 billion worth of liquefied natural gas. Zhenrong also imported 12.4 million tons of crude oil from Iran last year and expects to complete deals soon to develop three Iranian oil fields.
As for Sudan, it is also oil rich, and the holder of the biggest oil development concession from the current regime is China.
Needless to say, China will veto any Security Council resolution calling for regime change in either Sudan or Iran.
U.S. Special Forces/Chinese alleged fighting in Sudan
American Special Forces are fighting in Sudan and the Chinese are alleged to also be fighting in Sudan but they are not fighting each other, yet. #msg-3678761
-Am
US forces hunt down al-Qa'eda in Sudan By Damien McElroy, Foreign Correspondent (Filed: 01/08/2004)
American special forces teams have been sent to Sudan to hunt down Saudi Arabian terrorists who have re-established secret al-Qa'eda training camps in remote mountain ranges in the north-eastern quarter of the country.
The terrorists, who are thought to take orders from Saudi Arabia's most wanted man, Saleh Awfi, have taken refuge in at least three locations in the Jebel Kurush mountains, which run parallel to the Red Sea coast of Africa's biggest country.
An American Delta Force officer, who recently spent a week in Sudan tracking the terrorists, said the camps are used to train new recruits to wage jihad, or holy war, against the West and its allies. The trainees are instructed how to handle weapons and build and transport bombs.
The officer said it was proving difficult to pin the terrorists down. 'We have a read on the rat-lines and the wider camp areas, but these are shifting camps in a very spread out part of the country. Our job is to tie them down tighter and tighter. They are moving pretty easily from their base points to the Red Sea coast, and then back and forth to Saudi. The Saudis are pretty annoyed about it.'
Awfi, according to the Saudi Arabian government, is a former prison officer and a veteran of al-Qa'eda training camps in Sudan in the early 1990s. He is believed to have moved on to Afghanistan before turning up in Iraq before the war last year. Now back in his homeland, he emerged as the local al-Qa'eda leader earlier this summer. Riyadh has launched a nationwide crackdown on terrorist cells after an amnesty expired last month but Awfi has evaded capture, even though he is believed to live in a safe house in the Riyadh area.
Western diplomats in Saudi Arabia said that the new Sudanese camps, which were established in the last nine months, have become a vital staging ground for al-Qa'eda. 'There is significant traffic from these camps to the peninsula across the Red Sea,' one said. 'There is no real Sudanese government or army control over the mountains. The terrorists slip through the cracks, up into the hills where they can train, rest and build up the spirit of jihad. With things getting hot over here, they can get organised over there.'
Al-Qa'eda had its headquarters in Sudan between 1992 and 1996 until Khartoum's Islamic regime succumbed to western pressure to expel the group and Osama bin Laden fled to Afghanistan. Two years later President Clinton ordered cruise missile attacks on al-Qa'eda camps in Sudan and Afghanistan.
Sudan has resisted western and Saudi Arabian pressure for it to deploy an army battalion in the Jebel Kurush, to flush out the al-Qa'eda presence. It has, however, allowed small teams of American soldiers to pass into the country as part of official visits, such as last month's trip by Colin Powell. A team of five special forces soldiers broke off from the Powell entourage for a week-long mission in the Kurush mountains, where aerial surveillance had established a list of villages where suspicious activity had been detected.
American forces are hunting a series of groups linked to al-Qa'eda across North Africa. Special anti-terrorist operations in Sudan and the Horn of Africa are undertaken by marines based in Camp Lemonier in Djibouti.
It is only now that Sudan has become a base for Chinese oil operations elsewhere in Africa that we are ‘concerned’ about the Sudanese.
China uses Sudan not only for their oil; Sudan is also the base for Chinese oil operations elsewhere in Africa. And it appears China is willing to trade weapons for oil to Sudan’s radical Islamist government among others.
"China has sought energy cooperation with countries of concern to the United States, including Iran and Sudan, which are inaccessible by U.S. and other western firms. Some analysts have voiced suspicions that China may have offered WMD-related transfers as a component of some of its energy deals," noted the Commission. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/17/135930.shtml #msg-3645404
The main investor in the Sudanese oil industry is the China National Petroleum Company, and China is Sudan’s biggest trading partner overall.[2] It has been alleged that there are Chinese soldiers in Sudan protecting Chinese oil interests there, and that these troops have engaged in skirmishes with the rebels.[3] Moreover, while there are numerous foreign oil companies present in Sudan, it is precisely in Southern Darfur that the Chinese National Petroleum Company has its concessions. USAID, the American humanitarian agency, has helpfully provided a map of Sudan showing precisely where the oil concessions are.http://www.usaid.gov/locations/sub-saharan_africa/sudan/map_oil.pdf) #msg-3678761
Chinese soldiers are possibly fighting U.S. supported rebels.
Zaman also alleges that some of the groups fighting the central government in Khartoum are supported by Sudan’s neighbours, by the US, European governments, and by Israel. The US is said to have given $20 million to the Sudanese People Liberation Army, led by a man who conforms perfectly to the model of the American agent. #msg-3678761
-Am
China in Africa: All Trade, With No Political Baggage By HOWARD W. FRENCH
Published: August 8, 2004
EIJING - A look of satisfaction played on the trade official's face as he reeled off statistics recently from a ministry report about China's booming commerce with Africa.
"Forty African countries have trade agreements with China now," said the official, Li Xiaobing, deputy director of the West Asian and African Affairs division of the Trade Ministry. "We are doing a railway project in Nigeria, a Sheraton hotel in Algeria and a mobile telephone network in Tunisia. We are all over Africa now."
For any doubters, a glance at the statistics indicates that the official's exultation is, if anything, understated. Though starting from a modest base, China's trade with the African continent reached $18.5 billion in 2003, an increase of 50 percent since 2000, and it is on track for another big increase this year.
China's push into Africa is all the more remarkable because it comes when that continent has become the virtual stepchild of the international trade system, a mere footnote - or worse, simply unmentioned in discussions of global commerce.
Beijing's fast-rising involvement with Africa grows out of China's immense and growing need for natural resources, in particular for imported oil, of which 25 percent now comes from Africa.
Lacking the economic and political ties that Western Europe has with Africa as a legacy of colonialism, and the economic power that the United States wields because of its wealth and influence in international financial institutions, China's new leadership under President Hu Jintao has pushed to forge stronger ties. Mr. Hu himself traveled to Africa in January and February, visiting Egypt, Gabon and Algeria.
China's diplomatic machine has spared no effort, making sure that African leaders do not view its interest as a passing fancy. The prime minister and vice president have also visited Africa in the last year.
Experts in African affairs say that China's choices of partners and its diplomatic philosophy, which preaches noninterference in other countries' internal affairs, may have important consequences for Africa, especially at a time when Western countries seem largely preoccupied elsewhere. At one time many African countries, whether colonies locked in liberation struggles or fledgling, often nonaligned states, viewed China as a progressive ally and counterweight to the West. But those days are gone, and increasingly, China's involvement in Africa is pure big business.
In visiting Gabon, for example, Mr. Hu was honoring the leadership of Omar Bongo, a man who has become immensely rich while ruling his country autocratically since 1967. With its tiny size and population, Gabon ranks high in China's sights for one obvious reason: it is a longstanding oil exporter open to new investments in its petroleum industry.
A diplomat from Benin expressed disappointment. "We're a socialist-Marxist state, and we've had 30 years of ties with the People's Republic of China, and yet they bypassed us to go to Gabon," the diplomat was quoted as saying by The South China Morning Post, a Hong Kong daily. "This tells me that China has no friends but rather only interests."
Although Benin was long a Marxist dictatorship, for the last decade it has been one of Africa's freest democracies.
Elsewhere on the continent, China has become a vitally important partner of Africa's largest country, Sudan, at a time when the government there, a perennial abuser of human rights, has been accused by international rights groups and the United States Congress of organizing genocide.
"We started with Sudan from scratch," boasted the trade official, Mr. Li. "When we started there, they were an oil importer, and now they are an oil exporter. We've built refineries, pipelines and production."
He dismissed a question about Sudan's human rights record, saying, "We import from every source we can get oil from."
China's deputy foreign minister, Zhou Wenzhong, was even more blunt. "Business is business," he said in a recent interview. "We try to separate politics from business. Secondly, I think the internal situation in the Sudan is an internal affair, and we are not in a position to impose upon them."
Mr. Zhou went on to blame the West for many of Africa's problems, saying: "You have tried to impose a market economy and multiparty democracy on these countries, which are not ready for it. We are also against embargos, which you have tried to use against us."
This "see no evil" approach has not been cost-free.
In a report about the role of Sudan's oil industry in supporting an oppressive government in that country, Human Rights Watch, a New York-based advocacy group, wrote about a financing venture by the state-owned China National Petroleum Corporation.
"China's first foray into the world of high finance - to open up its enormous government-owned corporations to foreign investment - was a controversial offer to sell stock in C.N.P.C. to the public on the New York Stock Exchange," the report said. "Its offer, designed to raise a record U.S. $10 billion, had to be withdrawn and refashioned because of the negative publicity suggesting that the proceeds would be used to commit further human rights abuses in Sudan, Tibet and elsewhere."
Some experts in African affairs caution that by taking a classic big-power approach to African relations, China may be compromising its long-term influence there.
"For most of the postcolonial period, France, Britain and the United States also embraced some of the most unsavory regimes in Africa," said Gerald Bender, a professor of international relations at the University of Southern California.
"What China is perhaps not anticipating is how, when you embrace these terrible regimes, you eventually get tainted for it."
China's ties to Sudan oil raise the stakes in civil war
As far as China losing out in Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan and China have signed a deal to build a 1,240-km oil pipeline from Kazakhstan to the Chinese border. - Tuesday, 18 May, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3723249.stm
It has been alleged that there are Chinese soldiers in Sudan protecting Chinese oil interests there, and that these troops have engaged in skirmishes with the rebels.
These rebels that the Chinese troops are fighting are backed by the U.S. among others. What should be noted is that the United States has special forces in Sudan. We are very close to or already are fighting the Chinese. You have to wonder if the U.S. Special Forces and the Chinese soldiers have crossed paths because we really, really do not want the Chinese in Sudan.
Reference:
Zaman also alleges that some of the groups fighting the central government in Khartoum are supported by Sudan’s neighbours, by the US, European governments, and by Israel. The US is said to have given $20 million to the Sudanese People Liberation Army, led by a man who conforms perfectly to the model of the American agent. #msg-3678761
U.S. Special Forces/Chinese alleged fighting in Sudan
American Special Forces teams have been sent to Sudan to hunt down Saudi Arabian terrorists who have re-established secret al-Qa'eda training camps in remote mountain ranges in the north-eastern quarter of the country.
American forces are hunting a series of groups linked to al-Qa'eda across North Africa. Special anti-terrorist operations in Sudan and the Horn of Africa are undertaken by marines based in Camp Lemonier in Djibouti. #msg-3701895
-Am
China's ties to Sudan oil raise the stakes in civil war By Peter S. Goodman, Washington Post / December 26, 2004
LEAL, Sudan -- On this parched and dusty African plain, China's largest energy company is pumping crude oil, sending it 1,000 miles upcountry through a Chinese-made pipeline to the Red Sea, where tankers wait to ferry it to China's industrial cities. Chinese laborers based in a camp of prefabricated sheds work the wells and lay highways across the flats to make way for heavy machinery.
Only 7 miles south, the rebel army that controls much of southern Sudan marches troops through this sun-baked town of mud huts. For years, the rebels have attacked oil installations, seeking to deprive the Sudan government of the wherewithal to pursue a civil war that has killed more than 2 million people and displaced 4 million in the past two decades. But the Chinese laborers are protected: They work under the vigilant gaze of Sudanese government troops armed largely with Chinese-made weapons, a partnership of the world's fastest-growing oil consumer with a pariah state accused of fostering genocide in its western Darfur region.
China's transformation from an insular, agrarian society into a key force in the global economy has spawned a voracious appetite for raw materials, sending its companies to distant points of the globe in pursuit -- sometimes to lands shunned by the rest of the world as rogue states. China's relationship with Sudan has become particularly deep, demonstrating that Beijing's commercial relations are intensifying human rights concerns outside its borders and clashing with US policies and interests.
Sudan is China's largest overseas oil project. China is Sudan's largest supplier of arms, according to a former Sudan government minister. Chinese-made tanks, fighter planes, bombers, helicopters, machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades have intensified Sudan's north-south civil war. A cease-fire is in effect and a peace agreement is expected to be signed by year-end. But the fighting in Sudan's Darfur region rages on, as government-backed Arab militias push African tribes off their land.
China in October signed a $70 billion oil deal with Iran, and the ties between those two countries could complicate US efforts to isolate Tehran diplomatically or pressure it to give up its ambitions for nuclear weapons. China is also pursuing oil in Angola.
In the case of Sudan, Africa's largest country, China is in a lucrative partnership that delivers billions of dollars in investment, oil revenue, and weapons -- as well as diplomatic protection -- to a government accused by the United States of genocide in Darfur and cited by human rights groups for massacring civilians and chasing them off ancestral lands to clear oil-producing areas. The country once gave haven to Osama bin Laden and is listed by Washington as a state supporter of terrorism. US companies are prohibited from investing there.
Part of a broader push by China to expand trade and influence across the African continent, its relationship with Sudan also demonstrates the intensity of China's quest for energy security.
From Kazakhstan to the Middle East, past pursuits have ended in failure as Chinese firms have been aced out by the multinational titans that dominate the energy business. Japan appears set to claim Siberian stocks that China once thought were in hand. The US-led war in Iraq has thrown Chinese oil concessions in that country into doubt.
The pressure to find new sources of oil has grown as China has swelled into the world's second-largest consumer and as production at the largest of its domestic fields is declining. According to government statistics, China's imports have grown from about 6 percent of its oil needs a decade ago to roughly one-third today and are forecast to rise to 60 percent by 2020.
China National Petroleum Corp. owns 40 percent, the largest single share, of the Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Co., a consortium that dominates Sudan's oil fields in partnership with the national energy company and firms from Malaysia and India.
From its seat on the United Nations Security Council, China has been Sudan's chief diplomatic ally. In recent months, the council has neared votes on a series of resolutions aimed at pressuring Sudan's predominantly Arab government to protect the African tribes under attack in Darfur and stop support for militias by threatening to sanction its oil sales. China has threatened to veto such actions.
''China has a long tradition of friendly relations with Sudan," Wang Guangya, China's ambassador to the UN, said in a recent interview in New York. He confirmed China's veto threats, though he dismissed as ''categorically wrong" suggestions that oil interests were a factor, asserting that the resolutions would have eliminated the Sudan government's incentive to cooperate. China, itself often criticized on human rights issues, has a philosophical predisposition against outside pressure.
Human rights advocates and opponents of the Sudanese government portray China's role in different terms: Just as colonial powers once supplied African chieftains the military means to maintain control as they extracted natural resources, China is propping up a rogue regime to get what it needs.
''The Chinese calculation is to consolidate and expand while Sudan is still a pariah state," said John Ryle, chairman of Rift Valley Institute, a Nairobi-based research group that focuses on East Africa.
One of the poorest countries in the world, Sudan has long aimed to extract oil riches but lacked the necessary capital. It needed the help of deep-pocketed outsiders.
Sudan's bloody north-south conflict began long before China arrived, but oil has dramatically increased the stakes. The war is a struggle over the resources of the south, pitting the mostly Muslim, Arab elite that runs the government in Khartoum against the largely Christian and animist African tribes.
For years, the government lacked the arms to vanquish the Sudan People's Liberation Army, the rebel group that controls much of the south. With the dawn of oil production in 1999, Sudan's government began collecting $500 million a year in revenue. About 80 percent went to buy weapons, said Lam Akol, who was Sudan's transportation minister from 1998 to 2002 and is now a rebel commander.
A study by PFC Strategic Studies concluded that the Sudan government could collect as much as $30 billion in total oil revenue by 2012, with the potential for much more if exploration succeeds.
As the oil began to flow, Sudan relied on Chinese assistance to set up three weapons factories near Khartoum, said Ryle. Human rights groups say oil receipts have helped pay for a government-led scorched-earth campaign.