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hiijacker

03/03/09 10:45 AM

#155489 RE: hiijacker #155487

One more thing. I know NEOM claims they are not a litigious company in acting like a patent troll.

So clearly they admit that in the past they were acting like patent trolls.

So in their days of acting like patent trolls, did you see one lawsuit in japan or outside the United States? No, because they don't have a case there. Don't have the patents to support it.
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Be Confident

03/03/09 11:09 AM

#155493 RE: hiijacker #155487

Hiijacker,

You are absolutely 100% correct without question. The direct method is NOT covered by NeoMedia's patents. However, Neom's focus has never been on the direct method except to include it as a standard since it is already pervasive in Japan.

Unfortunately, this unequivocally tells me you need to do your research. I need to call into question whether you've read the plethora posts on this board describing the differences between the two methods...or you are simply not understanding the technology and its value proposition.

The direct method carries little value for brands, and does little in the way of security when compared with indirect. It is the "indirect" method that is of primary significance.

The indirect method carries valuable reporting that the ad agencies and brands lust after while simultaneously maintaining consumer privacy. It also offers enhanced security due to the unique functionality of the system.

The direct method is merely a URL embedded in a code, whereas the indirect method carries considerably greater value. If you understood the technology you would understand this point without question. It lies at the very foundation of what makes this technology so important.

The direct method "needs" to be included as a standard because it is recognized and bodes well for adoption internationally. However...it is of little consequence in the bigger picture.

Be Confident
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lesnshawn

03/03/09 11:16 AM

#155495 RE: hiijacker #155487

hiijacker: WE KNOW! WE KNOW! WE KNOW! lns eom
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Vercingetorix

03/03/09 11:45 AM

#155498 RE: hiijacker #155487

"The direct method is the method currently being used by over 99.9% of the barcodes in the real world today.

Look at Japan, the leader in the barcode world. where there are barcodes all over the street, they are all using the Direct Method."

Here was Jonathan Bulkeley's answer to that:

http://www.msearchgroove.com/2009/01/20/exclusive-800-pound-gorilla-scanbuy-speaks-out-on-barcode-controversy-why-open-is-good-but-managed-might-be-best/

"Most of the markets that are developing around the world right now are going to be indirect. Direct codes don’t provide the ecosystem with a revenue model that justifies bundling software and pushing this in a major way. It did in Japan, because they were charging consumers to scan, but that is not what’s going to be the model going forward. Now it’s ‘advertisers pay’, and they will pay because they want to pay to reach consumers."

He's right - the advertisers will pay for this, not the consumers. Indirect will triumph here.
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Rotten Johnny

03/03/09 12:20 PM

#155505 RE: hiijacker #155487

"The direct method is the method currently being used by over 99.9% of the barcodes in the real world today"

Please specify which ones from the list below:

23half
3GVision
5o9 Inc
Abaxia
Abbey
Active Print - HP
ActiveSymbols
Aeritas
Airclic
AlpsLab
Applied Digital Solutions
Aura Interactive
Baracoda
BaToo
BeeTagg
BluePulse
BrandAttention
CamClic
COD Communication
Connexto
ColorZip Media
ConvergeLabs
CounterFight
DSPV
Daem Interactive
Denim Code
DiMoCo
Digimarc
Domino Solutions
Ecrio
Elcode
Evolution ViPR
Evryx
Exbiblio
G2Tactics
Gavitec
GenTag
GeoVector
GMedia
Google 2D Code
Google Voice
Hitachi
HookCode
Hypertag
iCandy - Ricoh
Iconlab
Infokall
Inigma
Innofone
Intelcom
Intellareturn's Append
Intrasonics
Jaxo
Kaywa
Kameleon
KoolTag
LG Electronics
Liquid Information
Luna Development
MBarc
M-Bar-Go
Matrix Solutions
MediaSeek
Microsoft
Mobicode
MobileAMA
Mobile Assets Corp
HP's Mobile Bristol
Mobile Discovery
Mobile Tag
Mobile2Win
MobilRelay
MobiMarketing
Mobot
Mobiqa
MyBestPrice
MyClick
MyMobileCast.com
Mytago
MyThum Interactive
NetInformer
Nextcode
Neven Vision
NewFound
NPCTelecom
nThrum
Nuance
Ontela
Kooaba and ooLink
OP3 and ShotCode
Opera
PaperDisk
PixeCode
PriceNoia
Psiloc
QuickMark
QMCodes
RapidID
RealEyes 3D
Riya
ScanBuy
Scansoft
Secure Symbology
Semacode
Semapedia
Sintef
Skuair
SmartPox
SnapTell
Socket
SwiftPass
Tagit
TellMe
Trillcode
Tripletail Ventures
Veritec
Tivik
VeriSign
Visual Magic
Vocalocity
VoiceGenie
VoxSurf
w3 Logistics Handyscan
Wappple
WideRay
Xerox
Xobile's Leapscan
XXTreme Measures
ZapCode
ZapLinks

Also, NeoMedia deploys both direct as well as indirect...so they can perform not just 1, but 2 mobile barcode methods and are ISO compliant.

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