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Zeev Hed

05/20/04 10:08 PM

#247905 RE: SantaCruz #247904

Got to be careful with looking at the BTB only for signs of a peak, , first, you never know a "max" in that series has occurred until few months past that peak, just look at the last three reading they indicated that possibly we had the peak in DEcember, that was a good peak for the semi's in general, the stocks, not the shipments and semi equips shipments. Equipment is still increasing in both shipments and bookings, and this cycle might have a "quirk" in it, while the rest of the world might peak, China might continue to over spend (as Japan did during recession years in the 70') for political and "misguided" national security reasons (they feel, like Japan and after that Korea and Taiwan) that they must reach a critical mass in semiconductors manufacturing to maintain competitive advantage, they may keep spending more than the "normal cycle" would require through the next cycle peak, until they find out that "just in time" semi capex is a healthier approach, because semi capex, is often not worth th shipping costs when they become too old.... I think that listening to what INTC plan to do in Capex, is probably a better measure of future capex health than the "naked" BTB ratio. Having said all this, right now, it seems that the sector is still quite healthy, and unless my reading on the market in general in the next three to six month is completely opposite of what the market may do, would say that stocks like AMAT and KLAC are probably near the bottom of their range here rather than ready for a big "spill"....
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langostino

05/20/04 11:55 PM

#247927 RE: SantaCruz #247904

SantaCruz - semi cycle

absolutely right. the analysts who have called the end of this cycle are clueless and paranoid, apparently out of touch with the day to day semi business and gunshy from the past few years.

9 days ago, Taiwan Semi's Board jacked up its CapEx and approved an additional $1.4 billion for new production equipment. They are now running at 105% of capacity. Chartered is running at over 95%.

A couple weeks ago Cypress Semi CEO T.J. Rodgers took Q&A at an analyst conference and passed along the following info:
(1) semi companies like his are looking "through" the order books of their customers this cycle to make sure there is no double-ordering (as helped contribute to the bust of the last cycle)
(2) Cypress cannot meet demand, it is having to ration product, giving customers only 80% of their orders.

The transition from .13µ to .09µ process hasn't really fully kicked in. Why? Because the industry lets the couple of leaders (i.e. TSM, IBM and Intel) work through the practical problems with being on the bleeding edge. IBM has struggled with the transition for well over a year now at their Fresh Kills plant and only now is getting yields up near full production levels. Once the kinks have been worked out by the leaders, then others follow.

Having said that, I'm no fan of the equipment stocks at these levels, and will be actively short them next year once the cycle runs its course. But the market has jumped the gun on the end of this semi cycle, and driven a number of semi stocks down to the point where there is likely to be a serious semi driven rally somewhere between here and year's end.

I will recommend to anyone interested, a trip to the investor section of Cypress Semi's web site where you can download a paper written by T.J. Rodgers on how to value his company's stock. He set up a computer (named it HAL) to run simulations on every day that CY has been traded. It's dated, but still an illuminating piece, and worth the read if only to hear a CEO say that you should not be conned into buying when the analysts say buy and selling when they say sell, because they are a bunch of stinkin' salesmen who are trying to sell to you at the top and buy from you at the bottom. Classic straight-talk from a no-b.s. CEO. (Download from "Investment Analysis - Thinking About Cypress Stock")
http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=CY&script=2100

All FWIW ....