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SoxFan

02/13/08 3:59 PM

#72661 RE: PegnVA #72659

he also turned over stuff he kept from Chuck Knoblaugh who also verified McNamee story and also stated he did more than what McNamee stated by injecting himself like Petite.

I believe McNamee as why would he lie now? He was protecting Clemens before Roger tried to set him up with the call and it was then that he turned all this stuff over to the agents.
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BullNBear52

02/13/08 7:51 PM

#72700 RE: PegnVA #72659

I agree with you about Andy. It's really sad.
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langostino

02/14/08 9:37 AM

#72727 RE: PegnVA #72659

"high praise for him/his honesty"


These are the very same members of Congress who praised Bud Selig to no end the last time they met. I'd hardly say their stamp of endorsement is worth squat. Unless, of course, one has a fan's blinded allegiance and is looking to cherry-pick anything positive and dismiss or deny everything else.

Ironic, isn't it, that a guy who begged not to have to testify under oath before that committee, who lied repeatedly about never cheating/doping, then when busted in the Mitchell Report, lied again, then when put under deposition admitted the first set of post-Mitchell Report comments were lies, who would pimp out his own father to score his cheating/doping products for him, gets referred to as the big winner of the day for his honesty.

If Pettitte was even remotely as "innocent" as he continues to try to con everyone, then is it even remotely plausible that Pettitte had but a single conversation with his wife about Clemens? Is it plausible that had but a single conversation with Clemens? These guys sweated and worked out day after day after day together, not only in the most intimate of settings, but also in what is otherwise an environment characterized by tedium and boredom. When you and a workout partner are doing 4 hours workouts, out of sheer boredom you talk about everything and anything in your lives. You especially talk about everything you're doing related to training, eating, sleeping, etc. To swallow the notion that these guys didn't talk in detail and at length, repeatedly about this stuff is a fairy tale that boggle my mind people swallow whole. Especially if one of them was on the full program (and benefitting from it) and the other was not.

Pettitte has demonstrated his willingness to lie by telling only a fraction of the truth, obviously for the same sort of reason McNamee kept telling only a fraction of the story. Why expose yourself, your friends, your teammates, etc. to more scrutiny than necessary? was obviously his rationalization.

I'm sure there were similar rationalizations for asking his dad to cop his score for him.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
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langostino

02/14/08 9:40 AM

#72728 RE: PegnVA #72659

You really ought to stop


... with the nonsensical reference to McNamee as a "drug dealer". He is many things. But "drug dealer" isn't one of them. Unless you contend he purchased steroids and hGH with his own dough, then marked up the price and re-sold the stuff to Pettitte, Knoblauch and Clemens.

Stooping to that sort of reference only serves to put you in the same league as Dan Burton, who is, I believe, the one person in that hearing who trotted out that sort of disingenuous and pejorative language.