I am no virgin at being wrong, ajtj thinks we visit 1867 first a good 20 naz points under my target low of 1887 (I have the late winter decline ending in the 1887/1913 range, more likely the bottom of that range and today we got within 14 point of the top of that range. If what we have is a coalesced model, you may be right. I think the odds are still good that within two weeks we see sub 1900 on the naz. I have been fighting all day with broker on FCX I had a bid at $39.80, it printed $39.79 and I did not get it. I lost the battle...Now I am going to punish "them" and try and get a price better than $39.80(g).