I agree with this.
You stated the following:
Post 69175
And when George made his announcement about Joe losing his job based on perfromance he knew EXACTLY what the media would do with it.
Seems to me common sense would rule here what the intentions were. Breaking the rule? Probably not.
MLB doesn't have any rules against announcements during the postseason, which is what the conversation seemed to have turned to.
BnB stated this:
Post 69177
Yankees made NO annoucements per MLB rules. Any one who says differently is full of it.
Teams aren't allowed to make major announcements during the World Series, but if New York wanted to do so on an off day, commissioner Bud Selig probably would give his permission.
Again, it was about the rules of MLB.
You stated in 69178
The END result was the point.
You can't defend the end result.
It was all over the media and on the TV DURING the games.
Of course. George and the team wanted that. The message I'm responding to mentions the ploy by George to use the media to pressure the team to win. That is nothing new in the world of NY. What is wrong with it being in the media? This wasn't even close to when the World Series was being played.
Bnb 69180:
If you think otherwise because of the media coverage that the Yankees receive then it's sour grapes.
Go blame the media. But don't blame the Yankees.
You in post 69183:
I thought also as they did George was once again manipulating the media. He isn't dumb.
He knew EXACTLY what they'd do with that info.
Because MLB didn't say anything to George about it means absolutely ZIP to me.
I'm suppose to believe Selig does what is fair and best for baseball? Nope. I base my comments on what I see happe
You're both right, the media was being used. There is nothing that Selig could have done or even should have as announcements in the media only apply during the World Series. What George said wasn't even an announcement in the first place. He could have said it during the World Series if the Yankees were in it about firing Torre and been ok.
Bnb post 69191:
Yankees made the announcement on October 18-19 that Torre declined the offer. Sox fan is whining that Torre turned down an offer from the Yankees to continue managing the Yankees for the highest salary in MLB? And it's the Yankees fault that it's news?
He's right too. The Yankees had to address the situation with Torre right away. You just don't wait till the end of the postseason to take care of those matters. The Reds and Cardinals signed their managers during this period too. The media is quite a bit different in NY and there was a lot of interest on the Torre situation across the nation anyways.
You post 69198:
My part of agreeing was with the George announcement of possibly being fired.
You originally stated it was a ploy by George to pressure the team and that is ok. No rule broken as that is what was being discussed.
You again in 69200:
It was about a manipulative statement Geiorge knew the press would have a field day with. How hard is that to understand?
Yes, this was well before the WS. No foul. You're starting to talk about the original comment when that was fairly minor at this point. Bnb was discussing the getting rid of Torre and the subsequent throng of media action.
You in post 69221:
He and I were both defending the Yankees with Payrod and what happened there. He noted that the Yankees weren't exactly innocent in the media game and I agreed.
Agree, Yankees had no control over that. Of course the Yankees use the media. It is common for in many athletic events that sports personnel use the media to get a message across to their own team and others.
You in post 69275:
So Yankees are innocent according to you.
George saying Joe will lose his job before a playoff game is just good old innocent George.
Since George has been an ASS for so long manipulating the media it's okay with you.
This post isn't about the MLB rules. Media manipulation, surely not the first time nor the last time. To each their own opinion if it is right or wrong. No bid deal.
Bnb goes back to the rules again in post 69283:
Hello. The Yankees per MLB made no major announcements during the WS per MLB rules.
You need to get over it. I could care less what the person I have on ignore says. The only reason I looked was because you made some idiotic statement about the Yankees stealing some thunder during the WS.
It appears to me you're both right! You stated George was using the media, which is correct. Bnb is stating the Yankees didn't break any MLB violations, which is also correct!
Torre not taking the contract and him leaving the team was done 5 days before the World Series started and it actually even started before the ALCS was over. That is ok by MLB rules. Yankees didn't seem to be trying to grab the spotlight during the World Series with that move, which is what you both seemed to be discussing.
It appears you both agree with each other on the classless Arod statement, which did not include anything the Yankees did during the World Series.
So what exactly do you want to discuss: Did the Yankees manipulate the media? Did the Yankees break any MLB rules? Do the Yankees have to be the center of attention?
Kind of funny the person who made the original comment on this discussion, hasn't even been involved in it one bit! It all started with this by SoxFan in post 69148:
You know Boras and A-Rod weren't the only jerks during the playoffs. The Yankees with their every other day what's going on with Joe Torre and then Torre announcing during the playoffs he's out from under managing the evil empire. They need some explaining to do as well as they, as management, should have known better to make managing the Yankees an issue during the playoffs. But then again the Yankees need the spotlight.
The timeline with Torre was basically a two day deal on the 18th and 19th. Once again, other teams did this. This was of course going to be in the media and it had to be dealt with by the club. All teams try to hire a coach ASAP, and the Yankees are no different. They had to act as a club.
Bnb in post 69272 stated this:
This is a baseball board dummy. Do a search and maybe you'll find a board to post football about on.
This was in response to Dew's post with the Patriots and Colts game this weekend. I don't think anyone else had a problem with the post and more than likely, it will be one of the top rated/watched football games of the whole regular season. This is an incredible match up that has a lot of attention from the media and all fans. It is pretty apparent that BnB himself doesn't like the attention diverted away from his precious club, especially with another Boston sports team in the news.
It must be factored in how much he talks bad about the Red Sox and what saints he thinks the Yankees are. Of course he thinks George has done no wrong, especially since he has built a shoddy club of overpaid stars that are expected to do nothing but win 173 games in a season. When that doesn't happen, they get mad and when it is the Red Sox that win it all, they then get very bitter. Bnb is also one that think that the 1-yr contract offered to Torre was respectful and a genuine sign they wanted him back on the team. BnB reasoning is how much the club has spent to build a winning team. But he doesn't mention recently how much was wasted by George and Cashman on players past their prime and couldn't effectively make a meaningful difference to the club. Case in point this year, the $28MM prorated contract given to Clemens. So that must be Torre's fault too in the past 7 years a championship wasn't won. Of course Torre makes all those personal decisions, along with the salary contracts, and how poor the quality on the field was for the amount of money spent on the team. If Torre was paid $1MM or $20MM, that's not Torre's problem, that's a problem made by the management of the Yankees.
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