well this is my lost post for the day.....GTEM has never ever lied to me....ever......they just didn't do what they said they were gonna do...iow they didn't get it done....completely different things.....i have repeatedly said i think management is inept....thats the problem.....lots of micro caps fail for the very same reason...i still want jon, k and rob gone.......they are part of the problem.....but some things need to be fixed first before anything else can be done.....i'm here for one reason and one reason only the tech.....iow hotzone....and more to the point the JV......but i have seen plenty of bad management screw up perfectly good tech.....hence this is a gamble.....u and others on the other hand are following and trusting a blatant and known liar.....i just have a couple hundred bucks(was a couple G's) on a really bad management team with good tech.....not really sure how u see that as the same thing......i see it as me taking a gamble.....and those that follow joe as being naive and gullible.....iow i may turn out to be right.....don't really think the odds are in my favor tho......joe is wrong period.....there is NO chance for him to be right.....really its been well over a month since joe has claimed the JV is dead or GTEM is out......and he claims the G's are close friends.....well where is his verifiable facts to back up the JV is dead.....really his friend won't even send him an email backing that up......really who is the one following the moron off the cliff.......yea GTEM might end up at the bottom of the cliff too......but thats NOT a given.....joe is already falling.....its just a matter of time before he hits the rocks below.