Okay forest, I was there in 2004, I was here probably before any of you. I made a eight bagger back then and when the market cap was over extended I sold. I was in before dell dude before circuit city before it all. I was in it when it was pghi days I know what the company has been through. Its hard to grow a business. The only real complaint that I have is on advertising dollars spent. That is where this got into trouble. I'm not much in to car sporting events, I suppose. Not a redneck bone in my body. I have never seen so many bitter (gzfx exlovers lol) dam people in my life. Last year I lost 50k on investments and I don't look back I let people decide what they are going to do in those companies. It was my mistake and no one elses. Pick yourself back up and dust yourselves off and make a move. What a bunch of wasted energy - you all might be government employees? I'm done posting on this board. Avoire Adios Aloha