Vacationhouse, we get about two or three posts per day on "penny stocks" and other "pumps", in most case, if I see that same posts on other threads verbatim, I delete these as spams. Others like WAVX, we engage (not just I) the interlocutor to learn more, In the case of WAVX, since I have followed this company for the last 15 years or so, I had a deeper interest. The last six months of following it up persuaded me that nothing has changed fundamentally. It still could be used as an interesting vehicle from time to time, but until I see actual shipments of products and a "promise" of the promised land, namely, "positive cash flow", I will only consider it as a "special situation", such as the one described earlier with the possible future warrants forced conversion.