Larry, remember the "Scenario" on MU in early 2000, I got a lot of grief at the time from skeeter bug, but MU marched and passed my target it was $100 pre split) in a big way. Scenario 2 is different (the rights offering) because we run into a bear market, these massive pumps simply do not work in a bear, and since the current cyclical bull might have only 6 to 10 months to go, imto, I don't think they can get MU above $80 or so the required level to force rights redemption.