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evenpar

09/13/25 9:34 PM

#49803 RE: navycmdr #49802

Not what I wanted to read on a Saturday afternoon, hopefully Trump's just keeping his options open? If not Monday is not going to look too good either.
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detearing

09/13/25 11:06 PM

#49806 RE: navycmdr #49802

Ackman would likely maintain his position in FNMA and FMCC, arguing that the government's appeal, while asserting authority, does not preclude a future settlement or legislative action that could benefit shareholders. His past advocacy has consistently centered on the belief that the government's claim on the $350 billion preferred stock was unjust and that the enterprises should be recapitalized and released from conservatorship, returning value to common shareholders. He has previously highlighted the potential for a political resolution, especially under an administration perceived as more amenable to private sector interests. The appeal, from his perspective, might be seen as a legal maneuver to preserve options rather than a definitive statement against any future shareholder recovery.

Ackman's strategy has historically involved a multi-pronged approach, including legal challenges and public lobbying, to advocate for the recapitalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the return of their profits to shareholders. He has consistently argued that the net worth sweep, which directed all profits to the U.S. Treasury, was an illegal taking of private property. Therefore, the Trump administration's appeal asserting its authority might be viewed by Ackman as a continuation of the legal battle, rather than an insurmountable obstacle to his investment thesis. He would likely continue to emphasize the economic benefits of recapitalizing the GSEs and the potential for a political solution to unlock shareholder value.

The statement "The idea that the government can steal money from its citizens is socialism and a travesty" is opposite of Trump's statement in the context provided because it directly contradicts the implied justification for the government's actions regarding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Here's a breakdown of the logical steps:

The Original Context: The initial prompt describes a situation where the Trump administration filed an appeal arguing it has the authority to "take what it wants" regarding the $350 billion senior preferred asset in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This action implies a governmental assertion of power to control or claim assets, even if shareholders believe they are entitled to them.
Trump's Implied Stance (from the context): By filing an appeal arguing "it has the authority to take what it wants," the Trump administration (as described in the prompt) is implicitly asserting a right for the government to claim or control assets, even if it means overriding shareholder interests. This action, from the perspective of the shareholders, could be perceived as the government "taking" something that they believe is rightfully theirs.

The Statement in Question: "The idea that the government can steal money from its citizens is socialism and a travesty."

Contradiction:
Trump's implied stance: The government can assert authority to claim assets ("take what it wants").
The statement in question: The government cannot "steal money from its citizens" (which is equated to "taking what it wants" in the context of the shareholders' claims) because that is "socialism and a travesty."
Therefore, the statement directly condemns the type of governmental action that the Trump administration, in the provided scenario, is depicted as pursuing. It frames such actions as illegitimate ("steal money"), ideologically undesirable ("socialism"), and morally wrong ("a travesty"), which is the opposite of asserting the government's authority to do so.
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Louie_Louie

09/14/25 8:26 AM

#49808 RE: navycmdr #49802

We need to initiate a suit asking were we nationalized and a taking or were we not if something like his truly transpires. Period. There's no way any court could say that the taking of everything from shareholders for 17 years, including their voting rights, was not a full fledged nationalization and a taking. That in turn means they need to give a fair value for that taking. If the government keeps with this "heads I win, Tails you lose" philosophy who in the heck will invest in any new shares? What compnay out there will not change their bylaws with a bunch of poison pills to prevent any government takeover and nationalization, thereby making investing way more dangerous, lobsided and more terrible than it is because of fear of government takeovers with zero recompense. SCOTUS said to take this the nationalization and takings route, so that is what we should do the first smell of unfairness THAT IS VERIFIED. Right now, this X post means what? Who is this person? Does he have Trumps ear? Pulte's? Bessents? Lutnik? Or is this X poster highly leveraged in JPS?