I’m defending Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, period. So rights for Jews? But not apartheid?
How much cognitive dissonance must we accept to swallow that?
Would we be OK if trump's courts declared that America is a white Christian state?
What the fuck don’t [I] understand about that?
Quite a bit really.
"Just like I defended America’s right to exist despite our Vietnam genocide. "
Israel is not taking a side in a Palestinian civil war. Israel has conquered Palestinian lands and is engaged in ethnic cleansing.
The United States did not carve up Vietnam and settle it, pushing the native population into ghettos and depriving them of their lands, so however wrong the US war against Vietnamese self-determination was (and that's really what it was), the analogy fails.
The United States did carve up much of North America and settle it, but having done so... and being unable to undo that, the United States has made numerous concessions to the native people, among them, full rights of citizenship.
Now you keep complaining that you're being unfairly tarred with the genocide and apartheid brush... but the war crimes and the myriad human rights abuses are official Israeli policy. Israel has annexed the settlements... and the Golan Heights... and Jerusalem... and is practicing apartheid and ethnic cleansing in those areas. And of course that's exactly what they did within the 1948 - 1967 borders as well. But of course there the remaining Palestinians are allowed to be citizens... as long as they realize it's a Jewish state, and they aren't Jews.
That doesn't even touch on the obscenity of Gaza, which according to you is self-defense, and according to the psychopath John Spencer, is remarkably restrained. ------------------------ For bonus points why do you scream "antisemitism!!!" when Europe and the rest of us demand that products made in the settlements be labeled as such?
You're lying to yourself and the rest of us. The settlements are Israel. And the Palestinians are excluded, millions of them. That's apartheid.
Why do you insist on your position that Israel is some uniquely bad evil doer?
When you've lost Mike Huckabee, you might as well pack it up and STFU
As of July 18, 2025, Mike Huckabee, the US Ambassador to Israel, has called for an aggressive investigation into the killing of Sayfollah Musallet, a 20-year-old Palestinian-American citizen, who was beaten to death by Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank.
Huckabee described Musallet's death as a "criminal and terrorist act" and stated that there "must be accountability". This statement represents a rare instance of direct criticism towards Israel from Huckabee, who has been a strong supporter of the country and its policies in the past, including Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories.
It's important to note that while Huckabee's statement urges Israel to investigate, it doesn't call for a separate US investigation into Musallet's death, which his family is advocating for. The incident has highlighted tensions in the region, particularly regarding settler violence against Palestinians. This event comes amid a pattern of Israeli forces killing US citizens, with none of the prior cases since 2022 resulting in criminal charges. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/15/huckabee-palestinian-american-west-bank-00454777
brooklyn13, Yeah, "I’m defending Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, period." Period. What exactly does that mean to you. Firstly, noted you fall into either sullen or sulking or wtfdoisay troubled silence at sortagreen's ..
[...]Now you keep complaining that you're being unfairly tarred with the genocide and apartheid brush... but the war crimes and the myriad human rights abuses are official Israeli policy. Israel has annexed the settlements... and the Golan Heights... and Jerusalem... and is practicing apartheid and ethnic cleansing in those areas. And of course that's exactly what they did within the 1948 - 1967 borders as well. But of course there the remaining Palestinians are allowed to be citizens... as long as they realize it's a Jewish state, and they aren't Jews. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=176457297
Gaza 2035 - Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu unveils regional plan to build a “massive free trade zone” with rail service to NEOM "‘The machine did it coldly’: Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets "The Israel-Gaza tragedy and Europe's responsibility" [...] Yep. Israel had options, two independent states, or... for now an apartheid state. "The real question is whether Israel has the right to be a Jewish state that holds millions of Palestinians as permanent non-citizens under military law. " There's the crux of the biscuit, right there. " The problem isn't going away... 75 years of Israel: A 'Jewish state' to a full theocracy? [...]Related: "We'll make a pastrami sandwich of them" https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175622879]
UN officials issued a report on May 2 stating that over 70 percent of Gaza’s building stock has been destroyed, and that it would cost $40–50 billion to rebuild. This prompted one UN official, Abdallah al-Dardari, to say: “We have not seen anything like this since 1945.” https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=176430035
Secondly, what else could i add to sortagreen's which wouldn't be superfluous here.
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