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newmedman

05/24/25 8:09 PM

#527295 RE: Zorax #527289

I'm not going to argue with you because we basically get along but if the gubbermint shut down that leaves the executive with full authority to open or close any agencies that he or she sees fit. If that would have happened then we would Have Elon running every agency now, instead of the shit that's currently happening which is scary enough.

Did you read about big balls controlling our nuclear facilities? I know that won't last but if it was all shut down then nobody has a leg to stand on in court and even then, that cocksucker might have tried to shut down the courts too.
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fuagf

05/24/25 8:41 PM

#527299 RE: Zorax #527289

I still don't understand why you appear to totally ignore the factual info i gave you re the courts during a shutdown

"Are you seriously going to tell me 240 democrats were wrong about letting the reps shut down the government."

And your continued dogmatism on the 240 ...

[...]Latta's info, in fact, supports the limited court access position i've posted here. The two weeks (Latta said about 10 days) normal activity then after appropriated money runs out non-essential civil cases take a back seat. Or indefinitely delayed. So anti-DOGE cases could in a longer than normal shutdown face long delay. Musk and Trump would have salivated over that.

Also, should add, holding certainty where certainty does not exist is not always the wisest position to take. Just saying, pardner, we will never know for certain. It is too bad we will never know in absolute certainty which would have been the best path to take. You guys could be right, then again maybe not. There should be no certainty there on either side.

I still believe though that the evidence, the actual facts on the matter lean to Schumer's position, and am guessing
there are many more than we know of who agree with him. Noted that more also includes Democrat Congresspeople ..

Furthermore, Schumer was likely honoring the wishes of members who wanted him to save them from themselves. Punchbowl reported Monday that “based on our conversations with Democratic senators, many more Senate Democrats than just the nine who voted with Schumer agreed with his ultimate decision.” This is a familiar strategy in Washington, known as “vote no, hope yes.” Leadership can be a lonely job when tough decisions like this one are required. After all, a leader with no followers is just a guy taking a walk.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175970154

And again, just the fact that Musk wanted the shutdown

Elon Musk Has Wanted the Government Shutdown
Sources tell WIRED that Elon Musk has wanted a government shutdown in part because it would potentially make it easier to eliminate the jobs of hundreds of thousands of federal workers.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-has-wanted-the-government-shut-down/

surely in itself could be seen as a damn good reason for Schumer to refuse to give it to him.

And the facts i have given you against the shutdown are not Republican reasons
for not going for that shutdown, as you have also claimed in the past.