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Elmer Phud

03/05/07 6:44 PM

#39052 RE: smooth2o #39050

Smooth -

I've listened to the call and I must say that I am struck by his subdued, almost sheepish tone. I don't think I've ever heard a CEO with such a lack of confidence and leadership in his manner. He really doesn't want to be there and he REALLY doesn't want to answer these questions.

When someone says "I'm really thrilled" in a soft tone and is practically looking down and shuffling his feet you know something is really wrong here...
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alan81

03/05/07 6:48 PM

#39053 RE: smooth2o #39050

I am glad he put it in context.
In the same paragraph, he said the current opteron wins as many benchmarks as it loses to core 2. If we use that as the standard for what he is saying about Barcelona, then, well...
--Alan
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VBG

03/05/07 7:06 PM

#39060 RE: smooth2o #39050

Need to keep things in context.

Remember, he said "in terms of performance metrics that are valuable,that are important, that are significant and relevant". Valuable, important, significant and relevant to whom?

It may be that "all of those benchmarks" = 2
( SpecFP2006_rate and Stream )

I'm curious about what they "anticipate seeing in the market".
IIRC, Intel has publicly stated 3GHz Clovertown w/ 1.6GHz FSB and a Penryn based Xeon of undisclosed speed both in H2'07

-VBG
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wbmw

03/05/07 10:49 PM

#39075 RE: smooth2o #39050

Re: "The next generation of product that we are introducing here, the real quad core, this is really a significant jump in all of those benchmarks, and we are pretty excited and pretty thrilled that we are looking at numbers of 3 and 4 decades of points, you know 30-40% improvement from what we have seen in the market and anticipate seeing in the market."

Interesting. Just last week he was claiming 42% performance advantage, and now it's a 30-40% advantage. With Clovertown 3.0GHz, it will be a 20-30% advantage... in the SPECfp_rate and the other "important" AMD benchmarks. Overall, it will probably be a case of -20% to +30% performance variation. At least until 1600 MT/s FSB, 45nm, and other Aces that Intel has up their sleeves.