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01/05/25 1:41 PM

#506662 RE: sortagreen #506613

Yep. Israel had options, two independent states, or... for now an apartheid state.

"The real question is whether Israel has the right to be a Jewish state that
holds millions of Palestinians as permanent non-citizens under military law.
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There's the crux of the biscuit, right there.
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The problem isn't going away... 75 years of Israel: A 'Jewish state' to a full theocracy?

"Service to Israel Tugs at Identity of Arab Citizens
"Grading Biden on the Israel-Hamas War""

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"We'll make a pastrami sandwich of them"

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[...]'Inside Iran: The proxy war on the brink of erupting | Four Corners"

Related: Biden has been bad for Palestinians. Trump would be worse.
[...]Everything we know about the former president, from his extensive policy record on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict .. https://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18079996/israel-palestine-conflict-guide-explainer .. to his top advisers’ statements on the war, suggests he would have no qualms about aligning himself completely with Israel’s far-right government. While Biden has pushed Israel behind the scenes on issues like food and medical aid to civilians — with some limited success — it’s hard to imagine Trump even lifting a finger in defense of Gazan civilians whom he wants to ban from entering the United States .. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/16/us/politics/trump-gaza-refugees-travel-ban.html .
P - The Israeli right understands this and pines for Trump In an early February interview with the Wall Street Journal, National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir made his views quite clear.
P - “Instead of giving us his full backing, Biden is busy with giving humanitarian aid and fuel [to Gaza], which
goes to Hamas,” Ben-Gvir said. “If Trump was in power, the U.S. conduct would be completely different.”

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Ehud Barak blames Binyamin Netanyahu for “the greatest failure in Israel’s history”
[...]As Peres told them so many decades ago:
P - That is, Peres thinks that the Likud Party and its partners are living in a fool’s paradise if they believe they can annex the whole of Palestinian territory without getting the Palestinians as Israeli citizens eventually. And then, Peres says, no more Israel as a Jewish state.
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Israel, added Barak, a former army chief of staff, is “risking a multifront war that would include Iran and its proxies. And all this is happening while in the background the judicial coup continues, with its goal of establishing a racist, ultranationalist, messianic and benighted religious dictatorship.”
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[...]Here was the prime example of competition and collaboration that typified the Rabin-Peres relationship. It took Peres’s boldness and creativity to conclude the Oslo Accords; but without Rabin’s credibility and stature as a military man and security hawk, the Israeli public and political establishment would not have accepted it.

The grudging cooperation between Rabin and Peres continued until November 4, 1995, when Rabin was murdered by a right-wing extremist. The assassin could have killed Peres, but decided that targeting Rabin was the more effective way to derail the peace process. Succeeding Rabin, Peres tried to negotiate a peace deal with Syria on the heels of Oslo. He failed, called an early election, ran a bad campaign, and lost narrowly to Netanyahu in May 1996.
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Smotrich at Knesset: Ben-Gurion should have ‘finished the job,’ thrown out Arabs
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Smotrich has a long history of making inflammatory and outlandish statements. In August, he implied .. https://www.timesofisrael.com/mk-smotrich-blasted-for-saying-gay-pride-parade-touched-off-virus-wave/ .. that the Tel Aviv gay pride parade in June touched off a new wave of coronavirus infections. In April, he warned .. https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-warns-of-unrest-if-mandelblit-tries-to-disqualify-netanyahu-as-pm/ .. of civil unrest if the attorney general disqualified Benjamin Netanyahu from forming a government due to his indictment on corruption charges. And earlier the same month, he said .. https://www.timesofisrael.com/far-right-party-leader-arabs-are-citizens-of-israel-for-now-at-least/ .. during remarks at a faction meeting that “Arabs are citizens of Israel, for now, at least. They have representatives, MKs, for now at least.”

He’s also called in the past for Israel’s justice system to be based on biblical law.
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[...]Related: Ehud Barak: the military mastermind Israel loves to hate
[...]Israel's yearning for experienced military leaders brought him back to political life after the 2006 Lebanon war and he became minister of defence. He seems to have a feel for what motivates his enemies and was widely quoted as saying: "If I were a Palestinian I would have joined a terrorist organisation." Barak also stated during a US television interview last year that he would "probably" strive for nuclear weapons if he were in Iran's position.
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