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[zab]

Someone like you, who has never done anything to help anyone, but you sure can whine every day

[sortagreen]

So what you're saying is, their ancestors weren't racist trash... so I should focus on bringing back their coal jobs?

And I should be kind to them, even though they despise me. Sorry Cletus. Can't do it.

Confederate Monuments in West Virginia
Created by Clio Admin on July 25th 2020, 1:19:26 am.
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West Virginia was formed during the Civil War by communities and leaders who rejected the Confederacy and their doctrine of secession and formed a new government loyal to the United States. Despite its Unionist past, West Virginia is home to more Confederate monuments than monuments honoring citizens who served in the armies and navies of the United States during the Civil War. Driving home this point, the state even has a Confederate monument in Union, West Virginia. This trail includes some of the most prominent Confederate monuments along with public university buildings named in honor of men who fought against the United States and opposed the formation of the Mountain State. Each monument is unique, but all were part of a campaign by organizations that sought to vindicate the Confederacy and the antebellum South. West Virginia provided more troops for the United States than the Confederacy, and the people of the state also suffered from numerous raids by Confederates and bushwhackers. The war also saw raids and counter-attacks by U.S. troops, and many families lost their homes and their loved ones. Given the destructive nature of the Civil War, residents focused on burying their dead and there were few efforts to erect memorials beyond markers in cemeteries, and certainly no effort to erect any monuments celebrating the war or the military leaders of the Confederacy. Understanding the complicated and tragic history of West Virginia's Civil War experience requires significant reading to understand the perspectives of those who served in Union and Confederate armies, as well as those who sought to shield their families from harm. Such history cannot be conveyed in stone or metal, and these monuments include little text and tend to place a single soldier or office on a pedestal. While some communities are considering new monuments and markers that do more to contextualize the Civil War as tragic period that brought destruction, others are debating the value of these monuments that were erected by organizations that were formed in the 1890s and early 1900s to vindicate the Confederacy and the antebellum South. Rather than reflecting the nature of a destructive civil war that divided families and communities, these monuments reflect another complicated story- that of organizations who sought to control the historical narrative. This trail offers context for each monument, including the words spoken at dedication speeches when available. As a result, the goal is not to settle any debates about the fate of any single monument, but rather to offer context to understand why they were created.

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[sortagreen]

"Quickly, Take Charleston WV, once the 'chemical center of the world' population 50k.....Lost 10,000 good paying jobs shipping that industry to India...... "

There were at least 200 thousand textile and various other mill jobs within 15 to 20 miles of my home. They didn't pay great, but if you had a good work ethic and showed up there were better jobs (General Dynamics EB Division, which is still here, Thermos, Federal Paperboard, Triangle Plastic Wire and Cable, Wire Wind... later bought by Southwire and eventually closed) The whole Blackstone River Valley, as well as all of Eastern Connecticut was composed of mill towns.

https://blackstoneheritagecorridor.org/exploring-the-blackstone-river-valley/heritage-centers/

The thing is, our industry didn't go overseas. It went south to the Carolinas and Georgia.. etc. I don't hear you bitch about that. Kaman opened a place down there somewhere and a friend of mine went down to train the people who would take his job. All they did was stand around and snicker and abuse him... call him Yankee Doodle. Funny motherfuckers, huh?

But when the jobs went offshore, suddenly it wasn't funny anymore? C'mon Cletus. Where's your sense of humor? Or at least irony...

Breaking the unspoken Social Contract between corps, employees and communities....(thanks to the corrupted government)

Well... now that you voted for a national "Right to Work" law, I'm sure things will improve.

I never thought the leopards would eat my face, says the guy who keeps voting for the "leopards eating people's faces" party